natedawg3535 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 chris berman is a flipping idiot.......his analysis is horrible nowadays......if you moved kiper to nfl network then there would be absolutely no reason at all to watch espn but gotta admit i do watch both because of kiper only.
DanInUticaTampa Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Even though I hate to admit it, I enjoy ESPN the day of the draft more. It tends to be more entertaining with some more human interest stories and some better background on the players personal lives. NFL network is far better with analysis, but it can be dry because on almost every pick they give a run down on the players combine stats and compare it to their proday stats, then compare it to player X who is in the nfl. I watch both, but ESPN is a little more entertaining to watch. But I always want Mayock's opinion on a lot of the picks, especially bills and afc east teams. If NFLN just put Eisen, mayock, Charles Davis and Daniel Jeremiah on they would be outstanding. But they don't even put Davis or Jeremiah at the main table, they muddy it up with those bumbling idiots Irvin Faulk mariucci and sanders. They are using Daniel Jereiah a lot lately, I think they move him to the main table this year. I think they have gotten a lot of good feedback about him. But I agree, putting those four together would be pretty wonderful.
Mark Vader Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Mike Mayock is the best reason to watch NFL Network's coverage. Unfortunately, Mayock is the only thing good about NFL Network's coverage. Michael Irvin, Warren Sapp & Jamie Dukes offer almost no insight, all they do is yell. Charles Davis does a lot better, but I think they only have him there for one day, which is a shame. Rich Eisen is a joke. He brings absolutely nothing interesting to the draft. How many times do we have to hear him tell us that you can download the NFL Network app on your smartphone? Overall I think ESPN's coverage is better. It's definitely more entertaining. At least Chris Berman knows what he's talking about, and brings far more to the table than Eisen does. Mel Kiper is still very good at what he does. Yes, he sucks at his predictions, but that's not what I listen to Kiper for. He brings very good analysis to the table, and that's all that matters to me. Jon Gruden gets annoying with his love fest for every player that gets drafted, but he also has good analysis. McShay is far too pompous.
machine gun kelly Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I switch between the 2. ESPN has stopped spoiling the picks though which is good. Same. i flip back and forth.I'll take Mayock over Kiper all day long, but like on ESPN Bill Polian.
GunnerBill Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I can't get ESPN over here in the UK but I do get NFL Network as part of my NFL subscription thing. I am a big Mike Mayock fan. What I like about him is he talks about what players can do, what they can't do, what their strengths and weaknesses are and always tries to see why a team might have take a guy where they have rather than getting fixated on big boards and whether player X is a reach etc. I have seen a few clips of Kiper online and I don't think he has, in my opinion at least, as good a handle on the actual technical abilities and flaws of the players. Mayock doesn't seem to excude that sumg "of course I'm right" attitude to me either. He seems to get that drafting isn't a science. I also like Jeremiah. My only knock on him is he seems to be a little bit loathe to admit he was wrong once he's declared a view on a player, but I do think his opnions are worth listening to.
Kellyto83TD Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 NFLN. I used to flip back to ESPN for when the Bills are on the clock, but Berman doesn't have the 'cabbie' any more and doesn't really get into our pick like he used to, so I stay with NFLN. Besides I can't stand even 10 seconds of Kiper
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I record one and watch the other after the Bills make their pick so I can hear the analysis on both networks CBF
Mark80 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I switch between the 2. ESPN has stopped spoiling the picks though which is good. Uhhh...did you see when the Bills picked Manuel last year? They definitely spoiled it. While they didn't flat out say that Manuel was the pick, Schefter clearly said something along the lines of that "he's heard it's Manuel, or the Bills really like Manuel" or something like that just before the pick. It was a clear spoiler in my mind and ruined any suspense on who our next franchise QB was going to be when The Commish made the announcement.
Chandler#81 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I'm a flip-flopper. No, not my politics, just Draft day coverage. I disagree with the OP, Berman is a Bills fan and I love him.
thebandit27 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 NFLN has the best analysis, but ESPN does a much better job of making sure to actually show the commish at the podium. Two years ago, NFLN flat out missed showing 2 first round picks, which is crazy.
YoloinOhio Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 I like the idea of watching ESPN for the entertainment and DVR'ing NFLN to watch better analysis later. I like Berman, Polian, Jeremiah, Mayock. Strongly dislike McShay, and all the non-draft buffoons at NFLN Sanders, Irvin, Sapp, etc. Hopefully as others have said they put Jeremiah, Mayock and Davis front and center this year from the jump. I feel like Gruden looks like he's rather be anywhere else but the draft the whole time and they all get cranky and start snipping at each other on ESPN by day 2. I don't like to miss anything, and never thought of recording one and watching the other. It will give me something to do between the draft and TC. I'm a flip-flopper. No, not my politics, just Draft day coverage. I disagree with the OP, Berman is a Bills fan and I love him. I didn't say I didn't like Berman... you must mean one of the other posters! Uhhh...did you see when the Bills picked Manuel last year? They definitely spoiled it. While they didn't flat out say that Manuel was the pick, Schefter clearly said something along the lines of that "he's heard it's Manuel, or the Bills really like Manuel" or something like that just before the pick. It was a clear spoiler in my mind and ruined any suspense on who our next franchise QB was going to be when The Commish made the announcement. This is what I mean.. I thought they weren't going to do it anymore but its like they can't help themselves from telling us that they know who it is before its announced. Maybe some people like that, I prefer not to know until the commish or the team rep announces it.
Jerry Jabber Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 ESPN is like the male version of "The View." The last time I watched ESPN for draft, it might as well been the RGIII show the entire draft as that's all they talked about everyday during their coverage.
CodeMonkey Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 ESPN is like the male version of "The View." The last time I watched ESPN for draft, it might as well been the RGIII show the entire draft as that's all they talked about everyday during their coverage. That is an excellent description, and actually I find both networks to be that way. I watch the first pick overall, then watch something else until the Bills first pick. Listen to the analysis of said pick, then change channels again until the Bills second pick. Then I'm done.
YoloinOhio Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 ESPN is like the male version of "The View." The last time I watched ESPN for draft, it might as well been the RGIII show the entire draft as that's all they talked about everyday during their coverage. This year it will be the Johnny Football show.
KOKBILLS Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 This year it will be the Johnny Football show. With special guest Jadeveon Clowney, Mel and Todd debate the fall of Teddy Bridgewater...Musical guest (of course) Drake...
YoloinOhio Posted April 14, 2014 Author Posted April 14, 2014 With special guest Jadeveon Clowney, Mel and Todd debate the fall of Teddy Bridgewater...Musical guest (of course) Drake... I read he is hosting the ESPYs this year. He loves athletes or what.
Mark Vader Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 This year it will be the Johnny Football show. Yep
CodeMonkey Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Uhhh...did you see when the Bills picked Manuel last year? They definitely spoiled it. While they didn't flat out say that Manuel was the pick, Schefter clearly said something along the lines of that "he's heard it's Manuel, or the Bills really like Manuel" or something like that just before the pick. It was a clear spoiler in my mind and ruined any suspense on who our next franchise QB was going to be when The Commish made the announcement. Not really a spoiler compared to what they used to do. Those douchebags are wrong more than they are right. They are still guessing. Before they would have a camera back in the holding pen and focus on who got the phone call. That really was a spoiler. Edited April 14, 2014 by CodeMonkey
chris heff Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 I record one and watch the other after the Bills make their pick so I can hear the analysis on both networks CBF God help me I do the same thing.
LB3 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) I like ESPN because they never fail at giving the audience at least one hilarious gem every year like Gruden not realizing he's on TV and calling a coach a f'ing idiot or Berman freaking out on the cameraman when they come back from commercial before everyone is ready. I actually like McShay and how he takes digs at Kiper. Not a Kiper fan. Edited April 14, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
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