Fingon Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I'm under the impression that giants are pretty rare, and so are the mammoths, so I didn't have much issue with that. Also, I think the wildling "army" is simply the population of wildlings, a lot of women and children, not just fighters. That's definitely correct. It would take a population in the millions to field an army of 100,000 warriors, and from what we've seen in the show there is no chance the land beyond the wall could support that many. Let's not forget that almost the entire military strength of the North joins Robb at the end of season 1 and that was like 20,000 soldiers.
Maury Ballstein Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/05/30/game_of_thrones_and_the_wire_matching_the_characters_on_each_show_to_their.html Ygritte is Snoop lol. Whose Prop Joe ? Robert Baratheon ? Edited June 14, 2014 by Ryan L Billz
TPS Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Ok, my #1 choice was right, Jaimie smuggles him out. Regardless, that was the best hour of television ever! !@#$ing awesome episode!
DC Tom Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 That's definitely correct. It would take a population in the millions to field an army of 100,000 warriors, and from what we've seen in the show there is no chance the land beyond the wall could support that many. Let's not forget that almost the entire military strength of the North joins Robb at the end of season 1 and that was like 20,000 soldiers. Rule of thumb is 10 civilians support one soldier, at a maximum. "Rains of Castamere" playing when Tyrion shot Tywin was a nice touch.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Great episode. I started reading the books, already plowed through the first one and am half way through the second. I thought I would struggle to catch up before the start of next season but the way I'm going I'll be caught up by training camp. Tom, great catch there, I missed that.
eball Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Ok, my #1 choice was right, Jaimie smuggles him out. Regardless, that was the best hour of television ever! !@#$ing awesome episode! They really packed a ton into that one, didn't they? I'll be watching this episode again for certain.
LB3 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) How To Train Your Dragon 3 featuring Bran Stark? Arya was COLD....and it was awesome! Edited June 16, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
Doc Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Okay, now I'm not so pissed that Oberyn got himself killed by grandstanding. Although I suspect I shouldn't be getting attached to Tyrion because anyone could be whacked at any time on this show! Also when I saw the preview with Melisandre telling Stannis that the real fight was in the North, I knew he'd save Jon Snow's bacon. Although I thought for a moment that Jon would take the deal Mance offered him since they'll ultimately all need to fight the Whitewalkers.
TPS Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Rule of thumb is 10 civilians support one soldier, at a maximum. "Rains of Castamere" playing when Tyrion shot Tywin was a nice touch. Yes, happy Father's Day Tywin...
/dev/null Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Okay, now I'm not so pissed that Oberyn got himself killed by grandstanding. Although I suspect I shouldn't be getting attached to Tyrion because anyone could be whacked at any time on this show! Also when I saw the preview with Melisandre telling Stannis that the real fight was in the North, I knew he'd save Jon Snow's bacon. Although I thought for a moment that Jon would take the deal Mance offered him since they'll ultimately all need to fight the Whitewalkers. I pretty much came to the conculsion that Stannis would come to the rescue at the end of last weeks episode. The Nights Watch was decimated and we already knew Stannis was marching north My suspision is that Stannis takes Mance's offer but with a catch. Stannis forces were annihilated at Blackwater. With Mance's wildingings, Stannis now has a force to march on Kings Landing. Did you catch that look Melisandre gave Jon Snow? I think Snow becomes her focus instead of Stannis. I don't think we've ever gotten the story on who his mother is. I remember when Ned left for Kings Landing and Jon for The Wall, that Ned said he would tell him of his mother when next they meet. I think Jon Snow is more than just Ned's bastard with some random wench. Random wenches aren't his style, that was more Robert's style. I'm thinking either Jon Snow is really Robert's bastard. Or that Ned took pity on a Targaryian infant. The Targaryian children were slaughtered during Robert's rebellion. Ned claimed one as his to spare the child. Which makes Jon Snow the last male Targaryian. Kings Landing will collapse without Tywin holding it all together. Can't wait for next season Edited June 16, 2014 by /dev/null
Deranged Rhino Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Okay, now I'm not so pissed that Oberyn got himself killed by grandstanding. Although I suspect I shouldn't be getting attached to Tyrion because anyone could be whacked at any time on this show! Also when I saw the preview with Melisandre telling Stannis that the real fight was in the North, I knew he'd save Jon Snow's bacon. Although I thought for a moment that Jon would take the deal Mance offered him since they'll ultimately all need to fight the Whitewalkers. I don't know how to do the spoiler thing you guys can do so I won't talk specifics, but as to your last sentence I was with you and think he may well have taken the deal. It felt like he was going to for sure. I pretty much came to the conculsion that Stannis would come to the rescue at the end of last weeks episode. The Nights Watch was decimated and we already knew Stannis was marching north My suspision is that Stannis takes Mance's offer but with a catch. Stannis forces were annihilated at Blackwater. With Mance's wildingings, Stannis now has a force to march on Kings Landing. Did you catch that look Melisandre gave Jon Snow? I think Snow becomes her focus instead of Stannis. I don't think we've ever gotten the story on who his mother is. I remember when Ned left for Kings Landing and Jon for The Wall, that Ned said he would tell him of his mother when next they meet. I think Jon Snow is more than just Ned's bastard with some random wench. Random wenches aren't his style, that was more Robert's style. I'm thinking either Jon Snow is really Robert's bastard. Or that Ned took pity on a Targaryian infant. The Targaryian children were slaughtered during Robert's rebellion. Ned claimed one as his to spare the child. Which makes Jon Snow the last male Targaryian. Kings Landing will collapse without Tywin holding it all together. Can't wait for next season Great stuff and interesting to think about. I saw something with the creators once where they were talking about how they convinced Martin to let them adapt his work. Apparently it was a long dinner meeting, talking about how they'd do it and the world itself because they were both fans. At the end of the meeting Martin wasn't convinced they were the ones to adapt it so he tested them by asking them both who they thought Snow's mother was because it's still a mystery even in the books (if I'm not mistaken, I'm only one book deep). Benieoff and Weiss gave Martin their theory and he told them they were right and they could have the rights. SPOILER Theory below (Ghetto style since I don't know how to do the pop ups) Your theory would be cool and might well be right for all I know, the only thing that makes me hesitate is how in the books Snow's resemblance to Ned is what drove Caetlyn's hate-fire for Snow, so he must have some Stark in him. But it could be that he was Ned's sister's kid from when she was raped by Dany's older brother (The Mad King's heir, Prince Rhygar or whatever, I forget his name) who Robert killed in revenge. I hadn't considered that angle before your post but it would be pretty great.
/dev/null Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I don't know how to do the spoiler thing you guys can do so I won't talk specifics, SPOILER Theory below (Ghetto style since I don't know how to do the pop ups) To open the spoiler left bracket [ spoiler right bracket ] To close the spoiler left bracket [ /spoiler right bracket ]
Deranged Rhino Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 To open the spoiler left bracket [ spoiler right bracket ] To close the spoiler left bracket [ /spoiler right bracket ] Cheers.
Buftex Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 To open the spoiler left bracket [ spoiler right bracket ] To close the spoiler left bracket [ /spoiler right bracket ] Got that TPS?
TPS Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Got that TPS? sorry about that. Spoiler brackets for me now...
Buftex Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 sorry about that. Spoiler brackets for me now... Just kidding with you...
John from Riverside Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Anybody else feeling bad for the dragons? I am
eball Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Anybody else feeling bad for the dragons? I am Definitely. Not the loose one burning babies, though.
TPS Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Just kidding with you... it's true though. Went to a wedding Sunday, so I was primed for the show. I didn't think about time zones when I posted, let alone those who can't watch Sunday night. That show had so many layers of emotion going on with so many different characters. Also, given melisandre's look at Jon snow, she must know that he's got noble blood. I've tried to figure out who Ned could've bedded, but there don't seem to be any good possibilities. I have a hunch he's not Ned's, rather it has something to do with his sister who Robert said was his one true love. :-) Edited June 17, 2014 by TPS
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) I pretty much came to the conculsion that Stannis would come to the rescue at the end of last weeks episode. The Nights Watch was decimated and we already knew Stannis was marching north My suspision is that Stannis takes Mance's offer but with a catch. Stannis forces were annihilated at Blackwater. With Mance's wildingings, Stannis now has a force to march on Kings Landing. Did you catch that look Melisandre gave Jon Snow? I think Snow becomes her focus instead of Stannis. I don't think we've ever gotten the story on who his mother is. I remember when Ned left for Kings Landing and Jon for The Wall, that Ned said he would tell him of his mother when next they meet. I think Jon Snow is more than just Ned's bastard with some random wench. Random wenches aren't his style, that was more Robert's style. I'm thinking either Jon Snow is really Robert's bastard. Or that Ned took pity on a Targaryian infant. The Targaryian children were slaughtered during Robert's rebellion. Ned claimed one as his to spare the child. Which makes Jon Snow the last male Targaryian. Kings Landing will collapse without Tywin holding it all together. Can't wait for next season oh so much to comment on...... I'll try to keep this neutral Roberts love and expected wife was Neds sister.... so that does make sense. Melisandre does have a thing for sacrificing kings or their children And as stated the real war is the war in the north Edited June 17, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever
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