bills1960 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 I love the trade itself, i don't love what it implies.
SBUffalo Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 This pretty much guarantees a tackle will be the pick, in my opinion. Jake Matthews, please.
billsFORlife50 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Not a bad deal he's better then any WR they could've gotten in the 6th. Also opens the door for a trade back and then draft Ebron!
Beebes Bubble Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 He had signed a 6 year deal in 2013 with Tampa, so is under contract through 2018. It seems the guaranteed money is done after this next contract year, so he can be gone easily after this season if it doesn't work out. According to Rotoworld: 7/24/2013: Signed a six-year, $40.25 million contract. The deal contains $9.4 million guaranteed -- a first-year roster bonus of $1 million and each of Williams' first two base salaries. Williams is eligible for annual $600,000 workout bonuses in years two through six. 2014: $1.2 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2015: $5.2 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2016: $5.6 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2017: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2018: $4.15 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2019: Free Agent
BigBuff423 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 For a 6th round pick, that seems like a steal...I realize he must have some off-field issues given the recent events with his brother, but a proven WR talent in the NFL that is still young for a 6th round pick, seems like a good value for the BILLS and seems to indicate the Bucs planned on cutting him at some point if they couldn't get "something" for him....way to go Whaley
bills_fan Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 This pretty much guarantees a tackle will be the pick, in my opinion. Jake Matthews, please. Yup. And I am very cool with that! Safest pick in the draft.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 For a 6th round pick, that seems like a steal...I realize he must have some off-field issues given the recent events with his brother, but a proven WR talent in the NFL that is still young for a 6th round pick, seems like a good value for the BILLS and seems to indicate the Bucs planned on cutting him at some point if they couldn't get "something" for him....way to go Whaley How would we all feel if it was New England that got Williams for a 6th? I thought so.
cage Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Jeremy white won't be happy. This means Tampa is more likely to select mike Evans Yeah, but that might mean that Khalil Mack drops to us?!? If Evans moved up, someone moves back....
NoSaint Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) He had signed a 6 year deal in 2013 with Tampa, so is under contract through 2018. It seems the guaranteed money is done after this next contract year, so he can be gone easily after this season if it doesn't work out. According to Rotoworld: 7/24/2013: Signed a six-year, $40.25 million contract. The deal contains $9.4 million guaranteed -- a first-year roster bonus of $1 million and each of Williams' first two base salaries. Williams is eligible for annual $600,000 workout bonuses in years two through six. 2014: $1.2 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2015: $5.2 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2016: $5.6 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2017: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2018: $4.15 million (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2019: Free Agent with bonuses and such, its 5 years 32m we are assuming (each of those +1m should be +1.6m i believe, and spotrac has a 4m bonus in the final year too Edited April 4, 2014 by NoSaint
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Very conflicted by this. Mike Williams has been trouble since high school. But he is a legit NFL wr. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24076/ It's a very cheap price. My hope is he grows up in his hometown, moves to the burbs, and cuts his friends off. He needs to be told if he does anything dumb, his NFL career is done. I'm not holding my breath but it's a very reasonable gamble. At the same time, I think this means no Mike Evans. I've wanted him since his freshman year. But he may not even be there at #9. Hopefully, we are looking to trade down, pick up extra picks, & fill more needs in a deep draft.
Dorkington Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Looking at his stats and highlights, he's damned solid/good so far in the NFL, other than 2013. He has experience with Marrone (even if they parted ways), I'm sure Marrone signed off on this deal, so that gives me a little confidence as well. Basically a 6th rounder for a guy who's had two seasons at almost 1000 yards receiving? Not bad at all.
BillnutinHouston Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Makes you wonder what the background conversations were like. Did the Bills have some knowledge that he's ready to clean up his act and play for his hometown team?
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Very conflicted by this. Mike Williams has been trouble since high school. But he is a legit NFL wr. http://sports.yahoo..../players/24076/ It's a very cheap price. My hope is he grows up in his hometown, moves to the burbs, and cuts his friends off. He needs to be told if he does anything dumb, his NFL career is done. I'm not holding my breath but it's a very reasonable gamble. At the same time, I think this means no Mike Evans. I've wanted him since his freshman year. But he may not even be there at #9. Hopefully, we are looking to trade down, pick up extra picks, & fill more needs in a deep draft. With Marrone and Rob Moore as his coaches, I have to think they know him extremely well and these parameters are in place. He used up his chances in TB but this is his second chance at a career that he has the talent to prove.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Chris Hogan and TJ Graham should be very nervous.
cage Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Ebron or an OT at pick #9! Or the highest rated player with the last name of 'Williams" as we're clearly trying to field 22 players with that name in order to stir confusion with the opposition!
BigBuff423 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 How would we all feel if it was New England that got Williams for a 6th? I thought so. I'm not sure if you were implying that I was "unhappy" about the trade? If so, please re-read my post as I feel like it was a great move by Whaley and truly smart thing to do...plus, I presumed based on compensation the Bucs received, they were determined to part ways with him and got "something" in return for him as opposed to just cutting him....so I'm saying great job by the BILLS, if for some reason that got lost in my statements...
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