TakeYouToTasker Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Discuss. B-man: Your friend's son is in my prayers, along with the other victims, and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Good start to a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I do not even like to think about events like this. My thoughts and heart is with all of the victims today, yesterday and the past. Its a damn shame and such violence of any sort is inexcusable. Debating what rights we should or should not have, debating morality and ethics - none of that brings anyone back and does not do anyone justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Debating what rights we should or should not have, debating morality and ethics - none of that brings anyone back and does not do anyone justice. But it can help keep events like this from having such tolls in the future. Let's say, for example, that after the first Ft. Hood shooting it was decided after debate that soldiers there should be allowed to carry loaded firearms. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I do not even like to think about events like this. My thoughts and heart is with all of the victims today, yesterday and the past. Its a damn shame and such violence of any sort is inexcusable. I'm with you. a lot of people in the Austin area have either worked at Fort Hood, were stationed there, or know someone currently serving there. events like this have a very strong impact on many people here, and most of the local public's attention at this point is focused on the tragic loss of life, and support & prayers for those who have lost someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 But it can help keep events like this from having such tolls in the future. Let's say, for example, that after the first Ft. Hood shooting it was decided after debate that soldiers there should be allowed to carry loaded firearms. Just a thought. I am with you. But I am talking more about the political debates that beat this issue down to a pulp and pit one "side" vs another. We all need to be on the same side - and that is helping the mentally ill, speaking up against violence and just being nice to each other. If the idiots in Washington spent more time preaching the simple moralities of life instead of pointing fingers I have a feeling it'd do more good then saying the other side is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) If the idiots in Washington spent more time preaching the simple moralities of life instead of pointing fingers I have a feeling it'd do more good then saying the other side is to blame. There's no question. The problem is...there's no money in that. And DC is all about cash and virtually nothing to do with citizenship. Edited April 3, 2014 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 But it can help keep events like this from having such tolls in the future. Let's say, for example, that after the first Ft. Hood shooting it was decided after debate that soldiers there should be allowed to carry loaded firearms. Just a thought. What kind of country has a military that can't carry guns? The kind that is totally upside down on just about everything. I am with you. But I am talking more about the political debates that beat this issue down to a pulp and pit one "side" vs another. We all need to be on the same side - and that is helping the mentally ill, speaking up against violence and just being nice to each other. If the idiots in Washington spent more time preaching the simple moralities of life instead of pointing fingers I have a feeling it'd do more good then saying the other side is to blame. This should be the focus of all discussion on stuff like this. If politicians were truly concerned about protecting people instead of exploiting situations to advance a total government control agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 There's no question. The problem is...there's no money in that. And DC is all about cash and virtually nothing to do with citizenship. that is why we need to return our government to a unit of the people, by the people and for the people. DC does not listen to the public any more and every day, every year regardless of the party in office they simply make themselves more powerful and distant from the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 We shouldn't waste our time discussing soldiers that shoot other soldiers. Instead, we should be more concerned whether Army grooming regulations are "racially biased": http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/01/soldiers-complain-army-hairstyle-rule-racially-biased/7149757/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 What kind of country has a military that can't carry guns? The kind that is totally upside down on just about everything. This should be the focus of all discussion on stuff like this. If politicians were truly concerned about protecting people instead of exploiting situations to advance a total government control agenda. guns don't kill people. People kill people. It makes me think of the show American Dad. Stan puts a gun on the table and tells it to kill. It obviously doesn't. Until we treat the mentally ill there are always going to be issues of violence. I do not know of more regulations need to be made, or if certain checks should be done. But I know many things that do not effect firearm abuse. One person is too many. In this clear case it is plain to see that you cannot simply remove the weapon from the soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sad stuff. If you're goign to off yourself and refuse to get treamtment, at least have the decency to just hurt yourself. What is with this "Ill shoot other people with families because I am messed up" crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 guns don't kill people. People kill people. It makes me think of the show American Dad. Stan puts a gun on the table and tells it to kill. It obviously doesn't. Until we treat the mentally ill there are always going to be issues of violence. I do not know of more regulations need to be made, or if certain checks should be done. But I know many things that do not effect firearm abuse. One person is too many. In this clear case it is plain to see that you cannot simply remove the weapon from the soldier. Maybe they should look into the prescribed drugs these guys are on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Now we are hearing about PTSD. This guy was in Iraq for a few months. He was transporting vehicles for removal from the country. He was nowhere near and residual conflict. PSTD my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Now we are hearing about PTSD. This guy was in Iraq for a few months. He was transporting vehicles for removal from the country. He was nowhere near and residual conflict. PSTD my ass. Sadly, that "diagnosis" is a standard fallback for lazy journalism. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Now we are hearing about PTSD. This guy was in Iraq for a few months. He was transporting vehicles for removal from the country. He was nowhere near and residual conflict. PSTD my ass. My buddy from college was an officer in Iraq- he was there only 6 months and told me he has seen counseling for years just to deal wiht some of the things he saw while he was there. He think of himself lucky because he doesn't remember his Humvee getting nailed, he broke his arm, ribs, wrist, pelvis and leg and doesn't recall a thing until he woke up in Germany. I don't think it takes much for PTSD- Also, lets wait until the full investigation- as should the journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The guy wasn't anywhere any combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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