Tiberius Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 LAS VEGAS — Many of the Republican Party’s most powerful insiders and financiers have begun a behind-the-scenes campaign to draft former Florida governor Jeb Bush into the 2016 presidential race, courting him and his intimates and starting talks on fundraising strategy. Concerned that the George Washington Bridge traffic scandal has damaged New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s political standing and alarmed by the steady rise of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), prominent donors, conservative leaders and longtime operatives say they consider Bush the GOP’s brightest hope to win back the White House. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/influential-republicans-working-to-draft-jeb-bush-into-2016-presidential-race/2014/03/29/11e33b06-b5f2-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html As a Democrat I'd welcome that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) The last thing this nation needs is another Bush or Clinton in the executive. We're supposed to be a democracy, not a monarchy. (edit: obviously, just one man's opinion) Edited March 30, 2014 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The last thing this nation needs is another Bush or Clinton in the executive. We're supposed to be a democracy, not a monarchy. (edit: obviously, just one man's opinion) Political dynasties have always troubled me. Even Rand Paul's assention into the political spotlight is worrisome. Who knows what could, or even should, be done about it, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Political dynasties have always troubled me. Even Rand Paul's assention into the political spotlight is worrisome. Who knows what could, or even should, be done about it, however. I concur and it's hard to imagine another Bush or Clinton in office. However, these are individuals following a process to be elected. It's not as if the 'first' Bush or Clinton ran on a familial ticket with the understanding that their offspring/spouses would then be elected in their shadow. Denying a 'second' generation or a spouse the opportunity to run would be very un-American in my mind. This falls squarely on the voters. If we opt to 'do something' ....we need to do so in the booth. Sadly, we left being a government of the people and by the people a long time ago. Presidential candidates are far from being citizens in the median of society. I'm not suggesting we elect those who are not 'excellent.' Rather, of those who might be excellent candidates, our current system seemingly selects those of great wealth and heritage for nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The last thing this nation needs is another Bush or Clinton in the executive. We're supposed to be a democracy, not a monarchy. (edit: obviously, just one man's opinion) IIRC we could realistically go something like: Hilary Clinton Hilary Clinton Jeb Bush Jeb Bush Chelsea Clinton Chelsea Clinton Bush Twin Bush Twin Malia Obama Malia Obama Richard Nixon's Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The last thing this nation needs is another Bush or Clinton in the executive. We're supposed to be a democracy, not a monarchy. (edit: obviously, just one man's opinion) Two men's. I've been saying that for fifteen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Two men's. I've been saying that for fifteen years. We all know he stole that from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 We all know he stole that from you. I've stolen everything from him. EVERYTHING!!!! (Muhahaha! /evil laugh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 What's in a name? I tend to look at the accomplishments of a person. Did Jeb govern Florida well? What has Hillary ever done that can be praised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 What's in a name? I tend to look at the accomplishments of a person. Did Jeb govern Florida well? What has Hillary ever done that can be praised? Does an example of a parody in an episode of South Park help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Political dynasties have always troubled me. Even Rand Paul's assention into the political spotlight is worrisome. Who knows what could, or even should, be done about it, however. Nothing. People are free to run for office if they want. Many people follow in their families footsteps. Obviously Republican voters had no objections to putting the millstone of W around the country's neck in 2000...oh wait, that wasn't the majority of Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Nothing. People are free to run for office if they want. Many people follow in their families footsteps. Obviously Republican voters had no objections to putting the millstone of W around the country's neck in 2000...oh wait, that wasn't the majority of Americans It's well documented here that I'm firmly against the consolidation of power. This is especially true when dealing lineage based dynastic power, as this reeks of oligarchy/monarchy, and this type of leadership is typically more concerned with legacy building than governance. To your second "point", the United States is not a democracy (though it certainly is, unfortunately, trending that way). We are a Republic, and the system worked as intended when it elected President George W. Bush. The system has elected three other presidents without the popular vote as well. John Quincy Adams (1824), Rurtherford B. Hayes (1876), and Benjamin Harrison (1888). Edited March 31, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 To your second "point", the United States is not a democracy He wouldn't understand what you're saying if you explained it using cartoons and songs on Schoolhouse Rock. But it's what you expect from a person who, on one hand, is looking forward to voting for another Clinton while, on the other hand, laughing about the prospect of people voting for another Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Paul Mirengoff: Jeb Bush in 2016? No thank you. Steven Hayward: Jeb Bush? Not Sure This Is A Good Idea. The Political Party Elites have Spoken: It’s Bush vs. Clinton in 2016. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I have no problem with it, because he happens to be among the most qualified for the job. We can pretend to live in an ideal world, but understanding what it takes to get to the level to even be considered for a nomination, many capable people would not even bother. The sheer organization and cost needed to run the campaign precludes anyone but multi-billionaires and family scions. But to indulge the fantasy that popular novices can sweep to the national stage and get serious consideration to be President, I'll offer up Palin and Obama. No thanks. I'll take my chances with another Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I have no problem with it, because he happens to be among the most qualified for the job. We can pretend to live in an ideal world, but understanding what it takes to get to the level to even be considered for a nomination, many capable people would not even bother. The sheer organization and cost needed to run the campaign precludes anyone but multi-billionaires and family scions. But to indulge the fantasy that popular novices can sweep to the national stage and get serious consideration to be President, I'll offer up Palin and Obama. No thanks. I'll take my chances with another Bush. Long Live The King! Or atleast the decention of our political process into dynastic brand name candidacies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Bush in 2016?? I don't think that any guy on this board would want to wait two more years for Bush. In fact, I think that every guy on this board would want to have Bush tonight rather than have to wait two more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't think that any guy on this board would want to wait two more years for Bush. In fact, I think that every guy on this board would want to have Bush tonight rather than have to wait two more years. I prefer trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't think that any guy on this board would want to wait two more years for Bush. In fact, I think that every guy on this board would want to have Bush tonight rather than have to wait two more years. Both literally and figuratively. To each his own though. Landing strips are ok, jungles are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 What's in a name? I tend to look at the accomplishments of a person. Did Jeb govern Florida well? What has Hillary ever done that can be praised? IIRC Jeb promised that W would win Floridawith that ... Do you remember Chad? He was ":hanging" around when W "won" the second election. To your second "point", the United States is not a democracy (though it certainly is, unfortunately, trending that way). We are a Republic, Like the People Republic of China Like Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic or the ever confused Democratic People's Republic of Korea? its SARCASM people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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