stony Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) It could only be clowney. I cant see moving to #1 to take anyone else. CBF Agreed. It's really the only player going all the way to 1 for that makes sense. Don't know if we need to do it, but it sure would be fun. Also, could free up Whaley to try and recoup a lost pick by trading Hughes if he become a schematic non-fit. Edited March 28, 2014 by stony
Security Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I would do it, it they threw Kyle Williams in the trade up to do it.
johnwalter Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 interesting - before i opened the thread my assumption was that buf would target oakland and the 5 spot which at first glance seemed like a better position for our immediate needs. to everyone saying that this is a bad year to trade up because of the drafts depth: dont believe that to be true. gm's understand the draft's depth as well as you do (contrary to what you might think, they're better at this than us) reducing the demand for trades up and consequently, the price of such a trade, giving it a fair value. 'the invisible hand' fairly values things in the NFL just as well as it does in any market.
Beerball Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 interesting - before i opened the thread my assumption was that buf would target oakland and the 5 spot which at first glance seemed like a better position for our immediate needs. to everyone saying that this is a bad year to trade up because of the drafts depth: dont believe that to be true. gm's understand the draft's depth as well as you do (contrary to what you might think, they're better at this than us) reducing the demand for trades up and consequently, the price of such a trade, giving it a fair value. they damn well better be, eh?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) We dont have a starting RE anywhere on the roster. Marrone this week said we will be a traditional 4-3 defense, not multiple. Clowney trade up makes sense. Especially if the Bills feel good about EJ. Edited March 28, 2014 by TheTruthHurts
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I don't see it as anything but a smokescreen. I think the position Buffalo are in allows them to play these games... they are sitting there in a pretty genuine BPA mode at #9 with a few directions they could go. Of the consensus top 10 players (3 QBs, 3 OTs, Clowney, Mack and the 2 WRs) I'd say 7 (ie all but the QBs) could be fits for the Bills and because EJ hasn't totally locked out the starting QB job the Bills could even play that as a smokescreen card if they wanted to. So in trying to work our where the Bills go the teams around them are probably having something of a tough job. If it is genuine interest in trading up I can only see Clowney and Watkins as possibles. I think Watkins in particular would be a strange one to trade up for given what is considered a deep draft for WRs. I still think Atlanta are the most obvious movers up for Clowney myself.
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Let me get this in before anyone else does: Must be moving up for a safety since we let Byrd walk Same old Bills. /sarcasm
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I just cant see the Bills doing this. They have never traded up that far lol CBF
thewildrabbit Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 The article states that the Texans have been pushing hard to trade outta that #1 spot to obtain extra picks. You can find a link here: http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/buffalo_bills/32 The ONLY player you give away next years first and second round pick for is a QB. Not a DE, not a LBer, not a WR, and never for an O lineman (according to most of fans in this site that agree with the teams thinking, that you can find good O linemen in dumpsters). Anything but a QB is nucken futs, IMO I'm thinking Johnny Football to Buffalo. In all reality I think the Bills will trade back this year.
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Less athletic than the guy who hurt himself twice last season? That's scary. Athletic guys get hurt. The Ward hit was dirty too. But 100% agree EJ needs to go to Russell Wilson school of avoiding hits. NFL off season speculation
KOKBILLS Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Not that this would ever happen...But it's fun to see speculation on the target nonetheless... I would think if they moved to #1 the target would be Robinson...The way Marrone wants to run the ball, and the fact that he's an ex O-lineman, and ex O-line coach, makes me think he would be absolutely salivating at the opportunity to land Robinson...Robinson is a mauler, incredible athlete for his size, and has Orlando Pace-like potential...That would be my guess anyway... Edited March 28, 2014 by KOKBILLS
Harryhood280 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Going from 9 to 1 would cost 1650 points on the draft trade value chart. That means giving up next years 1st (~1250) and a second rounder (~400). I don't see that happening.
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I like the rumors, any rumors involving the Bills are fun during the long off season. I really think they would take Mack. Clowney's alleged motivational issues would not fly with Marrone, unless he knows for sure that Clowney actually doesn't have motivational issues. I could also see Watkins if they see him as a dynamic game breaker. But that seems too high for a WR. And DE is pretty deep in this draft. Regardless, can't wait for draft day! Not that this would ever happen...But it's fun to see speculation on the target nonetheless... I would think if they moved to #1 the target would be Robinson...The way Marrone wants to run the ball, and the fact that he's an ex O-lineman, and ex O-line coach, makes me think he would be absolutely salivating at the opportunity to land Robinson...Robinson is a mauler, incredible athlete for his size, and has Orlando Pace-like potential...That would be my guess anyway... Robinson I guess makes the most sense. But unless there is a torrid run on OT's in the first round, they should be able to grab a good one in the second (Morgan Moses, etc.)
DC Grid Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 All the smart people on this board and no one realizes this is just an elaborate play to get Fitz back? I'm shocked. In all seriousness though, I could see the Bills in talks with the Texans but not for their top pick, but for the pick they may wind up with. Atlanta has been rumored to be after Clowney for a while and they've shown the willingness to make bold trades on draft day. If Hou winds up in the 6th spot and the QBs keep falling, they may be interested in trading back a few spots to 9 and the Bills may realize they HAVE to trade up a few if they want Evans, as right now it looks like there's less and less chance that either Evans or Watkins are available after 7.
Steve in Carolina Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I would do it, it they threw Kyle Williams in the trade up to do it. Why?
The Big Cat Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 --So, Mr. Whaley, would you consider moving up in this draft. --We wouldn't rule anything out. --Even all the way to the first spot. --(Says) Sure, again, we wouldn't rule anything out. (Means) If they're giving it away, we wouldn't turn it down. HEADLINE: Bills willing to put it all on the line for this year's top pick GM says they want the first pick, and they want it bad
K-9 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 The article states that the Texans have been pushing hard to trade outta that #1 spot to obtain extra picks. You can find a link here: http://www.yardbarke...uffalo_bills/32 The ONLY player you give away next years first and second round pick for is a QB. Not a DE, not a LBer, not a WR, and never for an O lineman (according to most of fans in this site that agree with the teams thinking, that you can find good O linemen in dumpsters). Anything but a QB is nucken futs, IMO I'm thinking Johnny Football to Buffalo. In all reality I think the Bills will trade back this year. Depends entirely on the player. If you think he's a game-changer and worth it, then you pay the price. Remember what Polian gave up for Bennett? I'm not saying they should or shouldn't at this point. Indeed, I doubt they will, but if you have that kind of conviction on a player, then it makes sense to pull the trigger, QB or not. GO BILLS!!!
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 All the smart people on this board and no one realizes this is just an elaborate play to get Fitz back? I'm shocked. In all seriousness though, I could see the Bills in talks with the Texans but not for their top pick, but for the pick they may wind up with. Atlanta has been rumored to be after Clowney for a while and they've shown the willingness to make bold trades on draft day. If Hou winds up in the 6th spot and the QBs keep falling, they may be interested in trading back a few spots to 9 and the Bills may realize they HAVE to trade up a few if they want Evans, as right now it looks like there's less and less chance that either Evans or Watkins are available after 7. This is a very good point. The conversation could have been about this. What would that cost, swapping firsts and giving them a 4th rounder?
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Less athletic than the guy who hurt himself twice last season? That's scary. Just stop. Seriously. NFL off season speculation OK... you've redeemed yourself quickly.
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