stowellez Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Hey guys and girls, first time, long time. Some of you need to step back from the ledge. EJ did a decent enough job as a rookie IMHO. He didn't set the NFL on fire but which of the QBs do you want to draft this year will? Going off half cocked and drafting another "franchise QB" is just silly. Then we can have 2 QBs that need time to develop...if they develop. I don't think we're as far away from the playoffs as we have been in previous years. Let's continue to build where we obviously need to build and let EJ take care of business. If he doesn't, then we are still a stronger team, and perhaps the only missing piece will be QB. Can anyone honestly say the only piece we are missing right now, today, is QB?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Whatever they think about our 2nd safety I don't care, that defense right there gets me excited. Damn they could be really good this year. Better talent then the 2004 defense.
RealityCheck Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 With all of the blame that gets thrown around as to why the Bills have missed the playoffs for so long, why do some people still fear any form of competition at the QB spot? It makes absolutely no sense. Do you want to see wins or is it more important to hitch your wagon to certain players just for the sake of trying to win arguments on a forum. EJ clearly gets this season to show what he has. That being said, why not draft a QB outside of the first round to see if a guy can outplay Thad or Jeff. Every position needs competition for the backup roles at the very least. Honest criticisms of EJ should not always trigger such extreme hyperbole as a response. To say that EJ today is just as big of an enigma as he was last August is not nearly the same as wanting him replaced as soon as possible. Improving your QB depth at the very least can lead to some trades later on if your starter begins to light it up. If you decide the starter just can't cut it, then perhaps you have a guy already on the roster that earns a shot because the GM decided to wisely hedge his bets. I want to see the Bills win a lot more than I care about who is responsible for it. If Jeff Tuel sells his soul to the devil and looks like Drew Brees all of a sudden, who am I to argue if it means winning? Just win baby!
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Could we accidently try and find some guys @ lb so we could occasionally stop the run ? Or should we draft skill players that will spend a good part of Sunday's watching the other team convert...and convert...and ? Just a philosophical question Edited March 25, 2014 by MOVALLEYRANDY
Doc Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Could we accidently try and find some guys @ lb so we could occasionally stop the run ? Or should we draft skill players that will spend a good part of Sunday's watching the other team convert...and convert...and ? Just a philosophical question What about Spikes and Rivers/Lawson? Kiko? But who would you draft at LB and when?
Mark Vader Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 What about Spikes and Rivers/Lawson? Kiko? But who would you draft at LB and when? We only signed Spikes for one year. Drafting someone like Skov or Borland wouldn't be a bad idea.
Doc Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 We only signed Spikes for one year. Drafting someone like Skov or Borland wouldn't be a bad idea. I don't disagree, as I would like a 3-down MLB. But that 1-year deal can be extended and is a concern for next year.
SoulMan Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Should draft the strongest arm available in the 5th.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Are you trying to count the number of knee injuries EJ had in one season with those Dings? No it's meant to represent the amount of time Bills fans a re willing to give any QB develop...about how long it takes to zap a hot pocket. But let's go with your statement for a minute. EJ had three injuries to his knee. Does that make him a bad QB? I get the feeling that fans blame EJ for his injuries like it's all his fault. It's absurd. PTR
Doc Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 No it's meant to represent the amount of time Bills fans a re willing to give any QB develop...about how long it takes to zap a hot pocket. But let's go with your statement for a minute. EJ had three injuries to his knee. Does that make him a bad QB? I get the feeling that fans blame EJ for his injuries like it's all his fault. It's absurd. PTR Actually, he had 2 injuries to his left knee caused by minimal contact and one injury to his right knee from a helmet shot to it. The right knee doesn't concern me as much since it's not surprising he got injured (and likely won't put himself in that situation again). The left knee is more worrisome, although since he didn't have surgery on it, I wonder if it affected him all season long?
papazoid Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Hey guys and girls, first time, long time. Some of you need to step back from the ledge. EJ did a decent enough job as a rookie IMHO. He didn't set the NFL on fire but which of the QBs do you want to draft this year will? Going off half cocked and drafting another "franchise QB" is just silly. Then we can have 2 QBs that need time to develop...if they develop. I don't think we're as far away from the playoffs as we have been in previous years. Let's continue to build where we obviously need to build and let EJ take care of business. If he doesn't, then we are still a stronger team, and perhaps the only missing piece will be QB. Can anyone honestly say the only piece we are missing right now, today, is QB? QB is not the only piece. but it is by far the most important piece. if EJ doesn't pan out in 2 - 3 years, then it will be another 2-3 years waiting on the next guy. the bills have neglected the QB position far to long. thad lewis is a backup and Tuel is a joke. giving a young QB time to develop is fine, when you already have a franchise QB. the bills need to make up for previous years of neglect by getting another Top QB in here one way or the other. not some 5th round flyer.
ganesh Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 QB as a top 3? not the 2014 season . maybe next year. Why not. You can never have enough QB on the roster. I hope the Bills get Murray in the 3rd.
benderbender Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 QB as a top 3? not the 2014 season . maybe next year. Next year when the QB class is... um... better?
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Help on offense? Coming right up! 1-Mike Evans Texas A&M WRF 2-Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt WRF 3-Troy Niklas Notre Dame TE 4-Billy Turner North Dakota St ROT 5-Andre Williams Boston College RBF 6-Chris Watt Notre Dame OG 7-Logan Thomas Virginia Tech QB Love it!!! CBF
agardin Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 I was listening to the NFL radio network (Rich Gannon) was mentioning that having EJ run a hurry up fast paced offense was not the right scheme for a rookie to break into the NFL! Rich's opinion was to run a huddle up offense to slow the game down for EJ. Makes sense to me! So put it on Hackett! Running the hurry up with a rookie QB was at best overly optimistic at worse just plain dumb.
SRQ_BillsFan Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 With all of the blame that gets thrown around as to why the Bills have missed the playoffs for so long, why do some people still fear any form of competition at the QB spot? It makes absolutely no sense. Do you want to see wins or is it more important to hitch your wagon to certain players just for the sake of trying to win arguments on a forum. EJ clearly gets this season to show what he has. That being said, why not draft a QB outside of the first round to see if a guy can outplay Thad or Jeff. Every position needs competition for the backup roles at the very least. Honest criticisms of EJ should not always trigger such extreme hyperbole as a response. To say that EJ today is just as big of an enigma as he was last August is not nearly the same as wanting him replaced as soon as possible. Improving your QB depth at the very least can lead to some trades later on if your starter begins to light it up. If you decide the starter just can't cut it, then perhaps you have a guy already on the roster that earns a shot because the GM decided to wisely hedge his bets. I want to see the Bills win a lot more than I care about who is responsible for it. If Jeff Tuel sells his soul to the devil and looks like Drew Brees all of a sudden, who am I to argue if it means winning? Just win baby! I don't think people fear it, most want to bring a backup in. I don't want to see a high pick wasted on a QB and think a lower level draft choice wouldn't be ready and is likely no better than what we have.
mattsox Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 until you have a FRANCHISE QB it "should" be your #1 need. but hey, lets wait for EJ, what do have to lose besides extending our playoff drought. Yeah, because at Number 9 there is a better option than Manuel!
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 On what planet was EJ's when-healthy performance "disappointing?" I'm not saying said performance put him in the MVP hunt, but let's be serious. It was--at worst--on par with what should be reasonably expected from a rookie! Pretty much. Perfomance wise he was fine for a rookie. The only thing that has me concerned is the injuries. If he can't stay healthy, then that is obviously going to negate everything else. I had similar concerns about eric wood though, and his injury stuff has calmed down a lot. So hopefully his injury rookie season is not a precurser of things to come
Pitta Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 On what planet was EJ's when-healthy performance "disappointing?" I'm not saying said performance put him in the MVP hunt, but let's be serious. It was--at worst--on par with what should be reasonably expected from a rookie! Manuel was painfully inaccurate and hesitant in the pocket in his worse moments. During the TB and Pittsburgh games, even the biggest homer would be hard pressed to look at his performance and say that he looked like a player that could ever develop into an elite quarterback. During his better games (Carolina, NYJ) he was average. There was never one moment where Manuel wow'd me. Adding to the fact that this is a player that suffered 3 (!!!) knee injuries over the course of his first season in the league, and logically you would think we'd want a damned good insurance policy in place. Hearing rumblings on WGR that Whaley/Marrone are not interested in a veteran backup for fear of putting too much pressure on EJ is disconcerting, to say the least.
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