GunnerBill Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 plus 1. Plus another one. We were 4-3 last year much more than we were 3-4. I honestly think that a lot is being made about the change in scheme and I'm not sure there is going to be a huge difference.
Malazan Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Please eliminate the 4-3 and 3-4 from your lexicon. It will help greatly when thinking about what players roles will be on the defense.
Dorkington Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 id guess primarily in 3 man fronts, sure, with mario or hughes as an OLB you may have seen them at DE. and dareus was a 34 DE in college. but expecting a 330lbs and 4.9+ 40 time, or branch and his 5.0+ 40 to move outside and rush the passer isnt ideal. the speed and agility to get around the tackle just isnt there consistently enough. for a play here or there you can get by if beefing up on a 3rd and 1 or such but dont expect branch and dareus at 43 DE consistently. You wouldn't be putting Branch or Dareus on the outside in a pass rush scenario. It'd be under a heavy base defense meant for 1st or 2nd downs against teams who are using a 12 or 21 (or hell, 22) personnel packages.
YoloinOhio Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 1h The Bills are heavily working to sign @Iam_jerryhughes long term this offseason I am hearing.
BillsBytheBay Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 I don't think things change much for him. He'll be Mario's back up, and pass rush specialist on passing downs. He sticks with what was working for him.
Rubes Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 1h The Bills are heavily working to sign @Iam_jerryhughes long term this offseason I am hearing. LAMP: slcrubes @kevinmassare @iam_jerryhughes very cool 4/5/14, 12:28 PM Favorited by Jerry hughes @Iam_jerryhughes
YoloinOhio Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I thunk Hughes is a player so I am glad to hear this and hope it comes to fruition. Since Massare mentioned Hughes in the tweet, he better be right. Otherwise, Hughes is being told he is being extended by someone outside of the FO. So I would have to think he would not do that unless he was sure it was happening. That said, I hope Dareus is also in the works. I know they are supposed to make a decision by early May.
Mark Vader Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I thunk Hughes is a player so I am glad to hear this and hope it comes to fruition. Since Massare mentioned Hughes in the tweet, he better be right. Otherwise, Hughes is being told he is being extended by someone outside of the FO. So I would have to think he would not do that unless he was sure it was happening. That said, I hope Dareus is also in the works. I know they are supposed to make a decision by early May. If they are going to keep Hughes, now would be the best time to do it. If Hughes has another good year and then becomes a free agent, he will be gone. I also hope Dareus is in the works too.
sjjr Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Schwartz loves pass rushers and Hughes can rush the passer. He'll fit great.
jumbalaya Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 why should we draft for a 4-3 DE when the defense will switch back to a 3-4 next year? Let's start drafting based on what defense the next D Coordinator plays, not the current one.
boyst Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 LAMP: slcrubes @kevinmassare @iam_jerryhughes very cool 4/5/14, 12:28 PM Favorited by Jerry hughes @Iam_jerryhughes That means Jerry Hughes Favorited your tweet about it being "very cool?" Right? Cool!
Rubes Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 That means Jerry Hughes Favorited your tweet about it being "very cool?" Right? Cool! Yep!
FluffHead Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Kevin Massare @KevinMassare 1h The Bills are heavily working to sign @Iam_jerryhughes long term this offseason I am hearing. He is "hearing" from rotoworld who reported this first.
Chandler#81 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Excellent discussion so far. Would love to see us tab another Phil Hanson -AFTER we find another QB.. Yeah I said it..
machine gun kelly Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 I like Lawson and Hughes. They don't seem to fit as well in a 3-4, but as someone else pointed out, the phrase 4-3, 3-4 doesn't fit as so many teams go back and forth. Last year we were in a 4-3 more than 3-4 based on each down. I still see us drafting a traditional 4-3. I know it would be too much, but how cool to see Mario and Clowney out there together. When Mario gets older, we drop the end of his contract, and still have Clowney. I don't know what DE would be there in the second round, so any ideas would be great to read about.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 From what I am hearing, and looking over what Manny Lawson's role was last year, I wouldn't be surprised if they rotate at the LDE position. Lawson was pretty much always an edge setter outside Branch and Hughes is great when he can speed rush. Either way, due to their builds I wouldn't be surprised if they line up at the 9 technique.
YoloinOhio Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 He is "hearing" from rotoworld who reported this first. haha
NewEra Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I like Lawson and Hughes. They don't seem to fit as well in a 3-4, but as someone else pointed out, the phrase 4-3, 3-4 doesn't fit as so many teams go back and forth. Last year we were in a 4-3 more than 3-4 based on each down. I still see us drafting a traditional 4-3. I know it would be too much, but how cool to see Mario and Clowney out there together. When Mario gets older, we drop the end of his contract, and still have Clowney. I don't know what DE would be there in the second round, so any ideas would be great to read about. No need to dream about Mario and Clowney. Clowney won't be a bill unless we give up several picks
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