Redneck Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Love this signing! Fills a huge hole with little cap risk. We need more nastiness. Remember, Kiko had some character questions coming out of college, and we love what we see there.
Beerball Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Came on here to comment on this and discovered that I had apparently commented last night... A wee too much drinky last night, or did you inhale?
boyst Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Came on here to comment on this and discovered that I had apparently commented last night... Buffalo may be the butt crack of the USA, but he's the a-hole we've been missing the whole time. http://forums.twobil...e-a-drunk-when/ Edited March 15, 2014 by jboyst62
dave mcbride Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Love this signing! Fills a huge hole with little cap risk. We need more nastiness. Remember, Kiko had some character questions coming out of college, and we love what we see there. So did Duke Williams. Be careful what you wish for though ...
Beerball Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Anyway, my larger point is that while we're all thrilled to get a proven run stopper, it's wise to ask why BB unceremoniously dumped a player in his NFL prime. And he did dump him - he was essentially benched for the playoffs despite having a very mild injury. This is true & it may play a part in the 1 year contract.
Big Turk Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) I see why you think I'm making apples to oranges arguments, but that wasn't my intent. With regard to Poz, I was just picking out a 3-down MLB who is pretty darn productive (albeit for a bad team). I had hoped that the Bills would prioritize getting a Bowman/Willis type player. None appear to be available right now, but I do hope they address it in the draft. Obviously, the player has to be there, but I think it's one of their highest priorities and could elevate a good defense into a great one. I initially thought that the Spikes signing would make the Bills less likely to seek out this sort of player, but I didn't realize that it was a one-year contract. Given that, I think it's a pretty good signing (although it appears that Spikes isn't a great human being). As for the Belichik comment, I actually do think it's relevant. It's easy to despise him, but I can think of very few ex-Pats who have done well elsewhere after he has cut the cord. For whatever reason, he really didn't want him around anymore. The one ex-Pat I can think of who did well elsewhere was Richard Seymour, who had a couple of very strong seasons for the Raiders. But the Pats got a first for him, and that first turned into Nate Solder, a better than average LT who cost the Pats a lot less than Seymour. Seymour is out of the league, and Solder is entering his prime. If people can name ex-Pats who did well after BB got rid of them for nothing, I'd love to know. I tend to think of guys like David Givens and Patrick Chung - mediocre players that the system made look better. I imagine some will bring up Welker, but his stats actually declined a good bit this season (although he's still pretty good). Edelman replaced his production pretty easily. Maybe Milloy fits the bill, but he was never as good after he left the Pats. Still, he hung around for a while as a starter. Milloy had a couple of pretty good seasons for the Bills and one poor one, and he was a league-average starter for Atlanta: http://www.pro-footb.../M/MillLa00.htm . Anyway, my larger point is that while we're all thrilled to get a proven run stopper, it's wise to ask why BB unceremoniously dumped a player in his NFL prime. And he did dump him - he was essentially benched for the playoffs despite having a very mild injury. I think Bellichick believed Jamie Collins was ready to step in and start and he didn't do anything to prove him wrong...he was tremendous for them...perhaps they felt Spikes wasn't worth the headaches when Collins was as good or possibly better without them... Edited March 15, 2014 by matter2003
sodbuster Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I think the one year contract may have something to do with the future of Pepper. Maybe Spikes doesn't want to be stuck here if/when Pepper pulls a Pettine next year.
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I see why you think I'm making apples to oranges arguments, but that wasn't my intent. With regard to Poz, I was just picking out a 3-down MLB who is pretty darn productive (albeit for a bad team). I had hoped that the Bills would prioritize getting a Bowman/Willis type player. None appear to be available right now, but I do hope they address it in the draft. Obviously, the player has to be there, but I think it's one of their highest priorities and could elevate a good defense into a great one. I initially thought that the Spikes signing would make the Bills less likely to seek out this sort of player, but I didn't realize that it was a one-year contract. Given that, I think it's a pretty good signing (although it appears that Spikes isn't a great human being). As for the Belichik comment, I actually do think it's relevant. It's easy to despise him, but I can think of very few ex-Pats who have done well elsewhere after he has cut the cord. For whatever reason, he really didn't want him around anymore. The one ex-Pat I can think of who did well elsewhere was Richard Seymour, who had a couple of very strong seasons for the Raiders. But the Pats got a first for him, and that first turned into Nate Solder, a better than average LT who cost the Pats a lot less than Seymour. Seymour is out of the league, and Solder is entering his prime. If people can name ex-Pats who did well after BB got rid of them for nothing, I'd love to know. I tend to think of guys like David Givens and Patrick Chung - mediocre players that the system made look better. I imagine some will bring up Welker, but his stats actually declined a good bit this season (although he's still pretty good). Edelman replaced his production pretty easily. Maybe Milloy fits the bill, but he was never as good after he left the Pats. Still, he hung around for a while as a starter. Milloy had a couple of pretty good seasons for the Bills and one poor one, and he was a league-average starter for Atlanta: http://www.pro-footb.../M/MillLa00.htm . Anyway, my larger point is that while we're all thrilled to get a proven run stopper, it's wise to ask why BB unceremoniously dumped a player in his NFL prime. And he did dump him - he was essentially benched for the playoffs despite having a very mild injury. My guess - they didn't want to pay him (FA), didn't need him (Collins) and he didn't want to be there:brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 2h Free at last, free at last. I thank God I’m free at last. Free at last, Free at last !!!!!! #LetsGetIt #PoWwWwW
3rdand12 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Reluctantly i agree . He is our ***hole now ! And as long as he is truly healthy , he is a fantastic pickup . any one know about his incentives yet ? The one year contract to me might be a "prove it " type of deal. Both ways !
Clippers of Nfl Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 My guess - they didn't want to pay him (FA), didn't need him (Collins) and he didn't want to be there: brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 2h Free at last, free at last. I thank God I’m free at last. Free at last, Free at last !!!!!! #LetsGetIt #PoWwWwW Wow. Unless your name is Brady, it must be hell being in pats town. Lots of players talk sh about their previous team, but it seems like more from pats town. And with a more heated hate than normal. Talib just stated earlier this week that he didnt have a hip injury while the pats were reporting hip injuries. Basically stating that the pats are lying on their injury reports. Damn I hate this team so much.
Doc Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Collins is an OLB and Spikes is a MLB. The guy who replaced him in the playoffs was 3rd year man Dane Fletcher, who I doubt is someone they still want starting going forward.
NickelCity Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Provided the get some OLine help in the draft (I'm praying for two guards and a tackle), this season comes down to EJ.
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I don't quite think that last part's accurate. I want him to play hard and tough, but not dirty, albeit that can be a tough line to determine at times. I also think Schwartz will need to sit him down and lay out for him the new "rules" as a Bill, in particular how things he got away with in NE* will draw flags and ejection in a Bills uni. I also worry a bit about his "free spirit" influence on Dareus, who already has trouble being on time to meetings. All that said, I do actually agree with you that this is a good signing--he fills an obvious need and gives us draft day flexibility. You must be joking bout Schwartz "sitting him down". Schwartz is famous for his lack of control over guys like Suh. He was well known for presiding over a bunch of poor characters who were heavily penalized on field and Suh was rumored to publicly challenge Schwartz in meetings and practice. I think Schwartz is going to be a poor replacement for Pettine.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 You must be joking bout Schwartz "sitting him down". Schwartz is famous for his lack of control over guys like Suh. He was well known for presiding over a bunch of poor characters who were heavily penalized on field and Suh was rumored to publicly challenge Schwartz in meetings and practice. I think Schwartz is going to be a poor replacement for Pettine. Aren't you a ray of sunshine?
Since 1972 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Hello, I'm Alan Branch... One is the loneliest number since the number..."3DN"
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 My guess - they didn't want to pay him (FA), didn't need him (Collins) and he didn't want to be there: brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 2h Free at last, free at last. I thank God I’m free at last. Free at last, Free at last !!!!!! #LetsGetIt #PoWwWwW I just saw this tweet.... I so can't wait to play the Pats*
NickelCity Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I imagined this has been posted, but there are a lot of pages on this thread. Looks like people can break out their old Takeo jerseys? brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 16hGotta silence the lambs, get on my Buffalo Bill! #51 #BILLSMAFIA taking back the #AFCEAST #PoWwWwW brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 5h“@We4Bills: @rivers55 @BrandonSpikes55 Hey Rivers proving a class act” yes indeed he is !!!
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 warning: "once you see it, it cannot be unseen!" http://deadspin.com/watch-the-face-of-bill-belichick-sing-and-never-sleep-a-1544134834
MattM Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) You must be joking bout Schwartz "sitting him down". Schwartz is famous for his lack of control over guys like Suh. He was well known for presiding over a bunch of poor characters who were heavily penalized on field and Suh was rumored to publicly challenge Schwartz in meetings and practice. I think Schwartz is going to be a poor replacement for Pettine. Someone's going to have to break the news to Brandon that since he's no longer a Cheat* he's now got to play by the normal League rules and can no longer expect special treatment from the refs, may as well be Schwartz, who I'm sure will not appreciate the 15 yarders his old play would draw. BTW, when's that Dennard suspension coming down? Maybe that's why Browner signed there, too--extra protection from the piss man! Edited March 15, 2014 by MattM
Maury Ballstein Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 warning: "once you see it, it cannot be unseen!" http://deadspin.com/watch-the-face-of-bill-belichick-sing-and-never-sleep-a-1544134834 Happy belichick is freaking me out.
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