Hatszel Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Im really hoping for a trade down.......but if they dont then its starting to look like OT is the right choice This
bobobonators Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Scott Crichton DE43 Oregon State - Pure 4-3 guy, not versatile enough? Antonio Richardson ROT Tennessee - Mount Tiny--Knee concern? Ryan Shazier OLB43 Ohio State - 237 lb., long and lean weakside guy, quick to the edge Gabe Jackson OG MissSt - huge, technical, great agility, quick off snap, CWilliams' competition Kyle Van Noy OLB43 BYU - Better as a 4-3 OLB, could be a less-effective 3-4 OLB Ra'Shede Hageman DE34 Minnesota - versatile, DE34 or DT43, backup for aging KWilliams Trent Murphy DE43 Stanford - physical, instinctive, but predictable; high floor, low ceiling Bishop Sankey RBF Washington - my top RB in the draft, FJax comparisons but deep RB draft Lamarcus Joyner CB/FS Florida State - hybrid CB/S, moves very well and diagnoses quickly Carlos Hyde RBF Ohio State - my #2 RB in the draft; but we just signed similar guy in Dixon Will Clarke DE34 West Virginia - 6'7" 273 good awareness and strength against the run A Seferian-Jenkins TE Washington - Most experience in variety of alignments of all TEs, low YAC Troy Niklas TE Notre Dame - Caught ball further downfield than any TE, good seam, blocks best I anticipate that this will be the Bills choices at #41, and I've bolded four players I think are on the Bills board after their terrific free agency shopping spree. I'd like to know your thoughts. -Astro According to my sig, CHRICHTON IT IS. Edited March 16, 2014 by bobobonators
pimp 2 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Scott Crichton DE43 Oregon State - Pure 4-3 guy, not versatile enough? Antonio Richardson ROT Tennessee - Mount Tiny--Knee concern? Ryan Shazier OLB43 Ohio State - 237 lb., long and lean weakside guy, quick to the edge Gabe Jackson OG MissSt - huge, technical, great agility, quick off snap, CWilliams' competition Kyle Van Noy OLB43 BYU - Better as a 4-3 OLB, could be a less-effective 3-4 OLB Ra'Shede Hageman DE34 Minnesota - versatile, DE34 or DT43, backup for aging KWilliams Trent Murphy DE43 Stanford - physical, instinctive, but predictable; high floor, low ceiling Bishop Sankey RBF Washington - my top RB in the draft, FJax comparisons but deep RB draft Lamarcus Joyner CB/FS Florida State - hybrid CB/S, moves very well and diagnoses quickly Carlos Hyde RBF Ohio State - my #2 RB in the draft; but we just signed similar guy in Dixon Will Clarke DE34 West Virginia - 6'7" 273 good awareness and strength against the run A Seferian-Jenkins TE Washington - Most experience in variety of alignments of all TEs, low YAC Troy Niklas TE Notre Dame - Caught ball further downfield than any TE, good seam, blocks best I anticipate that this will be the Bills choices at #41, and I've bolded four players I think are on the Bills board after their terrific free agency shopping spree. I'd like to know your thoughts. -Astro I like any one of the 3 OT that should be there, Tiny Richardson (Ideal RT, IMO), Moses Morgan or Alabama's Cyrus Kouandjio (his value has dropped because of arthritic issues) a true road grader that can move.
Beerball Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I anticipate that this will be the Bills choices at #41, and I've bolded four players I think are on the Bills board after their terrific free agency shopping spree. I'd like to know your thoughts. -Astro Best o-lineman available.
Flutie7Flakes Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 A Seferian-Jenkins TE Washington - Most experience in variety of alignments of all TEs, low YAC This would be ideal, better overall weapons for EJ to grow with. *Dream* Pick - Bills manage to pickup Watkins (would have to be via trading up)
frogger Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Trent Murphy, ideal for the wide 9 style defense.
FluffHead Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I am not saying he is the right pick for the Bills, but I will tell you this. I saw RaShede Hageman numerous times this year and the guy is a beast. I see him in rd 2 in most mocks and he is going to be a great pick for someone. Edited March 16, 2014 by FluffHead
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I am not saying he is the right pick for the Bills, but I will tell you this. I saw RaShede Hageman numerous times this year and the guy is a beast. I see him in rd 2 in most mocks and he is going to be a great pick for someone. Agreed... Just about every big board I respect has Hageman in the 25-35 area...I think he would be quite a steal at 41...I doubt he'll make it that far though...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 Argh! It's like chasing your tail until we know what their intentions are at 9. Since astro is assuming Evans I'll have to say Gabe Jackson. I think the first two picks are going offense for sure, one skilled one line. Wonder if Jackson could be Urbiks competition instead of Williams' .
T master Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I think we go OT in the first , if we do go with Evans that would be a huge upgrade at WR & we need the big guy but i think due to the siv that was our O line last year & all the people brought in to help EJ the investment will be in a OT in the first . Then i think they will get his old buddy from FSU is it Benjamin in the second . EJ is very familiar with the guy playing with him in college & all so the learning curve would be shortened for both of them . I hope they can get a guy like Borland in the 3rd to bolster the LB corp i just think the guy will be the next London Fletcher ... That's my first 3 round picks 1) Lewan 2) Benjamin 3) Borland
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I think we go OT in the first , if we do go with Evans that would be a huge upgrade at WR & we need the big guy but i think due to the siv that was our O line last year & all the people brought in to help EJ the investment will be in a OT in the first . Then i think they will get his old buddy from FSU is it Benjamin in the second . EJ is very familiar with the guy playing with him in college & all so the learning curve would be shortened for both of them . I hope they can get a guy like Borland in the 3rd to bolster the LB corp i just think the guy will be the next London Fletcher ... That's my first 3 round picks 1) Lewan 2) Benjamin 3) Borland I wouldn't love this but it would fill the 2 needs I think are the highest, would prefer WR and then OT.
Agent 91 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 ASJ Gabe Jackson or the Guard from Baylor. ASJ Gabe Jackson or the Guard from Baylor. Although Van Noy is my favorite and Is Bateman really projected out of the first now?
dezertbill Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Despite resigning Chandler (only two years) I think Whaley goes TE. Although they made it seem they are satisfied at that position, there are some athletes you cannot ignore. Edited March 16, 2014 by dezertbill
Astrobot Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 I watched 3 Mike Evans games last night and can’t say he’s great. Here is a case where the #3 OT Lewan trumps the #2 WR Evans. I watched 2 Ebron games and an interview, and he tries hard, made a few ESPN-highlight catches, dropped a couple, Renner missed him a few times, has a dynamite over-the-middle route that could be described as a middle screen, and went up high to bring in a couple. Overall, he's above Evans for me. On the simulator if you put Safety as the P1 need, it gives us Clinton-Dix, not Pryor. Hmmmm…. I am ecstatic for two things. One, they signed Spikes, as we needed a thumper ILB to defend the run, and Spikes was #1 ILB against the run last year. Two, they signed Spikes to a ONE year contract. That signals they will be looking in 2 drafts (2014, 2015) and FA for a speedier version of Spikes. I hope I grow to love Dixon. I wanted Andre Williams, Carlos Hyde (RD3), or Terrence West (RD6-7). Now it looks more like West or Wilder in 7-UDFA.
Sumin Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I agree on Borland. Would be nice to have a young kid to plug in when Spikes falls victim to the Bills' preseason injury curse or if he jets out after year one. MLB is heart of the defensive unit and Borland is almost as rabid of a player as Kiko. I agree on having someone to back Spikes up. My pick would be Max Bullough- I have some concerns with Borland's size, but then again, I had concerns with Kikos size too..
1billsfan Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I watched 3 Mike Evans games last night and can’t say he’s great. Here is a case where the #3 OT Lewan trumps the #2 WR Evans. I watched 2 Ebron games and an interview, and he tries hard, made a few ESPN-highlight catches, dropped a couple, Renner missed him a few times, has a dynamite over-the-middle route that could be described as a middle screen, and went up high to bring in a couple. Overall, he's above Evans for me. On the simulator if you put Safety as the P1 need, it gives us Clinton-Dix, not Pryor. Hmmmm…. I am ecstatic for two things. One, they signed Spikes, as we needed a thumper ILB to defend the run, and Spikes was #1 ILB against the run last year. Two, they signed Spikes to a ONE year contract. That signals they will be looking in 2 drafts (2014, 2015) and FA for a speedier version of Spikes. I hope I grow to love Dixon. I wanted Andre Williams, Carlos Hyde (RD3), or Terrence West (RD6-7). Now it looks more like West or Wilder in 7-UDFA. Props for you coming back in your own thread and admitted a change of heart regarding Evans. I hope the Jets draft him...LOL I'm big on Ebron but I'm worried the Falcons take him at #6. If they don't, IMO he's the Bills' final piece to get EJ, the offense and this team up off the mat and into the playoffs. As for the second round pick, I think there will be a player there that people were shocked to see available. I don't know what position they play, but that's the guy you draft.
1B4IDie Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I watched 3 Mike Evans games last night and cant say hes great. Here is a case where the #3 OT Lewan trumps the #2 WR Evans. I watched 2 Ebron games and an interview, and he tries hard, made a few ESPN-highlight catches, dropped a couple, Renner missed him a few times, has a dynamite over-the-middle route that could be described as a middle screen, and went up high to bring in a couple. Overall, he's above Evans for me. On the simulator if you put Safety as the P1 need, it gives us Clinton-Dix, not Pryor. Hmmmm. I am ecstatic for two things. One, they signed Spikes, as we needed a thumper ILB to defend the run, and Spikes was #1 ILB against the run last year. Two, they signed Spikes to a ONE year contract. That signals they will be looking in 2 drafts (2014, 2015) and FA for a speedier version of Spikes. I hope I grow to love Dixon. I wanted Andre Williams, Carlos Hyde (RD3), or Terrence West (RD6-7). Now it looks more like West or Wilder in 7-UDFA. What specifically didn't you like about Evans? Big, strong, fast, that catches the ball at the High point? Very consistent and productive over his multi-year college career. The 2014 draft is a draft where the perfect jigsaw piece might fall to the Bills at the right time. Evans. Yes the Bills need a RT. Why would you spend a #9 overall on a RT when you spent the #41 on a left tackle. It just doesn't seem like the Bills will make that move. The need for a safety is extremely exaggerated and an emotional knee jerk reaction to Byrd walking away. Most teams can't spell the name of their Free Safety. With this team I'm guessing it will be spelled Williams in September. It's definitely not a P1 need. I don't see the Bills going defense either. Ebron is not an extremely athletic freak of nature. ASJ is basically the same and may be better. To take a TE at #9 IMO they would have to blow Vernon Davis' numbers up in the combine to even be considered that high. His numbers aren't that close and their definitely not over Davis' numbers. Ebron looks like a slightly smaller Jermaine Gresham to me. Again I just don't see the Bills FO making that pick. I doubt an NFL franchise has Ebron that high. Edited March 17, 2014 by Why So Serious?
bobobonators Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) What specifically didn't you like about Evans? Big, strong, fast, that catches the ball at the High point? Very consistent and productive over his multi-year college career. The 2014 draft is a draft where the perfect jigsaw piece might fall to the Bills at the right time. Evans. Yes the Bills need a RT. Why would you spend a #9 overall on a RT when you spent the #41 on a left tackle. It just doesn't seem like the Bills will make that move. The need for a safety is extremely exaggerated and an emotional knee jerk reaction to Byrd walking away. Most teams can't spell the name of their Free Safety. With this team I'm guessing it will be spelled Williams in September. It's definitely not a P1 need. I don't see the Bills going defense either. Ebron is not an extremely athletic freak of nature. ASJ is basically the same and may be better. To take a TE at #9 IMO they would have to blow Vernon Davis' numbers up in the combine to even be considered that high. His numbers aren't that close and their definitely not over Davis' numbers. Ebron looks like a slightly smaller Jermaine Gresham to me. Again I just don't see the Bills FO making that pick. I doubt an NFL franchise has Ebron that high. My view on Evans is jaded bc i wtched a bunch of his games in 2012 and only about 2 games last season. When i watched him in '12 he was still extremely young and raw - talented but certainly not overly impressive. I think he greatly improved this season with his route running. His hands to me are still a bit of a question mark - if hes going to be our "elite" #1 he has to have elite hands. At 9, i would not be upset if we went w evans due to his combo of size and speed. Unless the bills really screw us this season, i feel ill be satisfied w our first pick. I see either Ebron, Evans or a trade down to get a RT and an extra 2nd rounder. Edited March 17, 2014 by bobobonators
LynchMob23 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Evans seems to be exactly what they need, and on top of that would be able to be fit into very important down and distances (red zone) where Bills struggled with a 6'7" TE. Adding a 6'5 WR to that can only help, especially a jump ball specialist. For round 2, Crichton, ASJ or Tiny Richardson would fit the Bill(s)
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