auburnbillsbacker Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I heard them talking about how the top 10 picks will play out. They agreed that QBs and OTs would be taken early. Kirwin said that the Bills will draft Lewan. Miller didn't disagree, and said that if they do, they will place him at LT and move Cordy Glenn to guard. They said that this would give them a great left side (I am paraphrasing but this WAS the strong message). I am not going to condone this move, nor will I summarily dismiss it. One thing that could prevent it imo is that Glenn would certainly not like this, and the Bills seem to be stuck in the mode of making sure that their players are content and loving life ala Byrd. I will admit the following: if this plays out and Lewan is a bruising, strong LT, I can picture Spiller running all day. Yes, I said this . And Fred, along with another big back would also benefit. Once again, this is not my suggestion. It's something I heard on the radio but it did pique my interest. Thoughts? GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I tend to trust the thoughts of Pat Kirwin more than that of fans. He is a former AFC East GM who knows a lot about the Bills. I frequently listen to Moving the Chains but haven't heard any discussio on Byrd. Does anyone know his thoughts on the Bills decision not to use the Franchise tag on him.
snamsnoops Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I tend to trust the thoughts of Pat Kirwin more than that of fans. He is a former AFC East GM who knows a lot about the Bills. I frequently listen to Moving the Chains but haven't heard any discussio on Byrd. Does anyone know his thoughts on the Bills decision not to use the Franchise tag on him. Yup he said the Bills should have tagged Byrd moved him to RG and Cordy to RT! JK
reddogblitz Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 2 guys doing mock on NFL network during Ice Bowl on the trailer both had Bills taking Mike Evans. I could deal with that.
ALF Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) I would let Glenn play his preferred position if the Bills draft Lewan. He deserves LT pay if he switches to G though. Still better to draft or free agent RT. Edited March 5, 2014 by ALF
GunnerBill Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 The Bills are not moving Glenn. It's a non-starter. They will not move him from LT and they will pay him when it comes to negotiation time. Whaley has been clear about what he sees as the corner stone positions to bulding a top NFL football team. One of them is left tackle.
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Moving Glenn is a very silly idea. Right offensive tackles and left guards can be found in the second round and the 2014 draft is deep. This would be a year to trade down to the mid teens to twenties, draft the best LB / TE / CB we can there and get two OL's in the second round. If you allow me to spend the Bills money, I would jump on Reif from New Orleans. He was getting over $2M a year and grades out as on of the (if not) the best ROT. If we take $4M from letting the bird fly, and sign him to a 3-4 year contract, that is one hole fixed before the draft.
BarleyNY Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I think their comments were at best ignorant and at worst stupid. To say the Bills are going to use the 9th overall pick to draft a LT only to immediately move Glenn to LG is ridiculous. That would equate to (at least in the short term) weakening our LT position and filling the hole at LG. That's what they think we should achieve with the ninth overall pick. That just goes to show you how little the national care to know about teams like the Bills. I think it's reasonable to use the ninth pick on a stud right tackle, but not a guard or to fill a guard spot. Safety or tight end would also be good. I could see wide receiver as well. There are far more obvious ways they could've gone.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Are they accepting wagers on the likelihood of this happening?
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 1) Bill are you sure this was a super sexy dream you were having? This would be like heaven for you. 2) I struggle to see how Lewan is a better LT prospect than Glenn currently is. He was not that impressive when I watched Michigan. 3) If I was Glenn's agents, I would raise holy hell if this happen. Because of the NFL's stupid tagging system/ FAcy, this move would cost Glenn a ton of money. He would not be a happy camper. 4) The odds are a tackle in the 3rd round or later will be as good if not better than at least one of the 1st round tackles. Happens every year.
Bill from NYC Posted March 5, 2014 Author Posted March 5, 2014 3) If I was Glenn's agents, I would raise holy hell if this happen. Because of the NFL's stupid tagging system/ FAcy, this move would cost Glenn a ton of money. He would not be a happy camper. + I think that the tag is the same for tackles and guards but yes, it could conceivably cost Glenn some money in free agency. This however isn't so high on my list of concerns should the situation arise. And btw this is an interesting scenario, but not one that I expect to happen.
Wayne Cubed Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I just don't see how this possibly could be a good move. You take the 3rd best Tackle in draft (someone who hasn't proved anything) and replace someone who has already proved he can preform in the top 10 in the league at LT. All because you see a hole at LG? Wouldn't the smarter move be to draft the BPA, which IMO Lewan wouldn't be at #9 with a run on QB's, and then draft a Guard in round 2 or 3?
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 + I think that the tag is the same for tackles and guards but yes, it could conceivably cost Glenn some money in free agency. This however isn't so high on my list of concerns should the situation arise. And btw this is an interesting scenario, but not one that I expect to happen. It should be Bill. Why upset a good LT for a guy who had struggles in the Big 10? Part of the issue with Peters is the Bills gave him a new deal after he became a RT. Well he got switched to LT and thus wanted more money. If I was Glenn and they moved me from LT to G, I'd be pissed.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I just don't see how this possibly could be a good move. You take the 3rd best Tackle in draft (someone who hasn't proved anything) and replace someone who has already proved he can preform in the top 10 in the league at LT. All because you see a hole at LG? Wouldn't the smarter move be to draft the BPA, which IMO Lewan wouldn't be at #9 with a run on QB's, and then draft a Guard in round 2 or 3? This x 1,000
Dorkington Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I don't see Glenn moving to the inside. I could see them moving him to RT if they feel that's appropriate... but why take Glenn away from LT when he's performed well? That makes no sense to me.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I don't see Glenn moving to the inside. I could see them moving him to RT if they feel that's appropriate... but why take Glenn away from LT when he's performed well? That makes no sense to me. Moving him to RT doesn't make sense either. He is a really good, young LT that the Bills are fortunate to have. Sign a RT in free agency (Strief or Collins) and draft a LG in the 2nd - 3rd (Su'A-Filo, Richardson or Jackson). It doesn't seem that complicated to me. There is little to no chance that Glenn starts at any position other than LT.
RyanC883 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Lewan is not a pick you take at #9. His play was inconsistent, is listed as a bust candidate, and I really don't think he is better than someone you could get in the 2nd round like Moses from UVA. If we trade down in the first round and take him then, and get extra picks this would be okay. I just don't see how this possibly could be a good move. You take the 3rd best Tackle in draft (someone who hasn't proved anything) and replace someone who has already proved he can preform in the top 10 in the league at LT. All because you see a hole at LG? Wouldn't the smarter move be to draft the BPA, which IMO Lewan wouldn't be at #9 with a run on QB's, and then draft a Guard in round 2 or 3? This exactly!!!!! And there are good guards and tackles in the 2nd and 3rd round.
Bill from NYC Posted March 5, 2014 Author Posted March 5, 2014 It should be Bill. Why upset a good LT for a guy who had struggles in the Big 10? Part of the issue with Peters is the Bills gave him a new deal after he became a RT. Well he got switched to LT and thus wanted more money. If I was Glenn and they moved me from LT to G, I'd be pissed. Nah. The Bills worry too much about soothing the hurt feelings of multi-millionaires, this while losing football games. I want what is best for the team in terms of actully getting to the playoffs. How Glenn feels is of little consequence to me.
Sisyphean Bills Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Nah. The Bills worry too much about soothing the hurt feelings of multi-millionaires, this while losing football games. I want what is best for the team in terms of actully getting to the playoffs. How Glenn feels is of little consequence to me. They could always put a mini-fridge in his locker.
BillsVet Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I don't see Glenn moving to the inside. I could see them moving him to RT if they feel that's appropriate... but why take Glenn away from LT when he's performed well? That makes no sense to me. I could see it happening. During the '09 off-season they traded Peters before draft day, moved Langston Walker from RT to LT, Brad Butler from RG to RT, drafted Wood and Levitre, cut Walker, started Bell. The only constant was Hangartner.
Cash Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Nah. The Bills worry too much about soothing the hurt feelings of multi-millionaires, this while losing football games. I want what is best for the team in terms of actully getting to the playoffs. How Glenn feels is of little consequence to me. It's never occurred to you that someone who's happier at his workplace might be more motivated and perform better at his job? Or that if management forces a highly unpleasant and unwelcome change in his role on him, that might result in a drop in performance? If that happens at McDonald's, they just fire the disgruntled employee and just hire someone from the vast pool of candidates. If that happens on an NFL team, they don't really have the option to replace Glenn with an equivalent player.
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