Libertarian Environmental Policy

[TakeYouToTasker]

This? What does this mean?

 

It helps to continue reading:

 

libertarian government offers no influence to sell; and eliminates the laws which allow massive corporations to exist as they do today. It is the government which grants corporate personhood and limited liability. It is the government which allows corporations to write the legislation which grants them monopoly status and guaranteed market share.

 

Now please respond the rest of my prior post.

Edited May 30, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker

[Tiberius]

It helps to continue reading:

 

 

 

Now please respond the rest of my prior post.

So how in the hell are you going to take corporate influence out of politics and the courts? Simply by wishing it gone?

 

You are advocating this nonsense and its becoming clear you really have no idea what it means, how it works or what it is suppose to accomplish. Its just "Government Bad" and that's all

[TakeYouToTasker]

So how in the hell are you going to take corporate influence out of politics and the courts? Simply by wishing it gone?

 

You are advocating this nonsense and its becoming clear you really have no idea what it means, how it works or what it is suppose to accomplish. Its just "Government Bad" and that's all

You are demonstrating an incredible lack of reading comprehension. You apparently need your hand held:

• a government with insufficient power to peddle influence cannot peddle influence
  
• if there is no influence to sell, then their is no influence to buy
  
• with the inability to purchase influence, corporations will not be able to wield disproportional advantage in the crafting of law
  

Further, your criticism is still empty, as you continue to demonstrate that you don't have the most basic fundamental understanding of what libertarianism is; and as if that wasn't bad enough, you've demonstrated a complete inability to comprehend what you've read, much less utilize the information garnered through reading.

 

Now respond, in totality, to post #57 of this thread.

Edited May 30, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker

[3rdnlng]

Gator---go to a used book store and pick up copies of Robert Ringer's "Winning Through Intimidation" (not what it sounds like), "Looking Out For #1", and "The American Dream". Read them in the order I presented here. Keep an open mind and you'll not only understand libertarian philosophy but some pretty good life philosophy too.

[Tiberius]

• a government with insufficient power to peddle influence cannot peddle influence
  
• if there is no influence to sell, then their is no influence to buy
  
• with the inability to purchase influence, corporations will not be able to wield disproportional advantage in the crafting of law
  

 

So, anarachy. No government, no law, no order.

 

Gator---go to a used book store and pick up copies of Robert Ringer's "Winning Through Intimidation" (not what it sounds like), "Looking Out For #1", and "The American Dream". Read them in the order I presented here. Keep an open mind and you'll not only understand libertarian philosophy but some pretty good life philosophy too.

I'll look them up but....bookstores? Those are so 90's. I love amazon so much I got an amazon rewards credit card

[3rdnlng]

So, anarachy. No government, no law, no order.

 

I'll look them up but....bookstores? Those are so 90's. I love amazon so much I got an amazon rewards credit card

 

You'll pay about $2 a book in a used bookstore, and just think when you are done with them and if you didn't like them, you could burn them.

[TakeYouToTasker]

So, anarachy.

No.

 

No government

No.

 

no law

No.

 

no order.

No.

 

Also, this wasn't even a good example of trolling; because all you've managed to do is make yourself appear about as bright as a rock.

 

In the event you aren't trolling, I'm genuinely revisiting my stance on eugenics.

 

And introduction to libertarian thought:

 

[DC Tom]

Gator---go to a used book store and pick up copies of Robert Ringer's "Winning Through Intimidation" (not what it sounds like), "Looking Out For #1", and "The American Dream". Read...

 

That's the point where I started laughing.

[3rdnlng]

 

 

That's the point where I started laughing.

 

Hope they are in audio format then.

[Magox]

Being an environmental scientist in NC- your article rings true. The anti-science Republicans have taken revenge on 100 years of democratic dominance in NC. Their mantra is Jobs Jobs Jobs-- period. No matter what the cost to the environment - jobs at any cost. All of the regulations regarding fracking, off shore drilling and toxic remediation have been gutted. Professional and responsible state regulators fear for their jobs- politics trumps science. The damage being done by this truly feckless administration will be paid for by decades of contaminated water, air and soil. Such a beautiful State has been thrown to the Wolves of Wallstreet.

 

 

After the 2008 elections, Democrats controlled the state House of Representatives 68 to 52. Today Republicans control it 77 to 43, and they have upset the New York Times’ emotional equilibrium through measures such as cutting from 17 to 10 the number of days for early voting(which is 10 more days of early voting thanNew York has), curtailing unemployment compensation (which had been the most generous in the Southeast), cutting taxes by about $2 billion over five years, expanding school choice, etc. The Times has lamented “the decline of North Carolina.” Some decline:

The state has added more than 200,000 jobs in three years. Unemployment has fallen from 10.4 percent in January 2011, then eighth-highest in the nation, to 6.2 percent, one of the largest improvements among the states in the past 13 quarters. The Tax Foundation says North Carolina’s business-tax climate may go from the nation’s seventh-worst to the 17th-best. In 2013, the Census Bureau estimated that North Carolina was just 48,000 residents behind Michigan, so by now this state probably has replaced Michigan as the ninth-most populous state.

 

 

http://www.washingto...3d19_story.html

 

I'll take the "anti-science" guys that create significantly more jobs than the job-killing, over regulating liberals you support any day of the week.

Edited May 31, 2014 by Magox

[Tiberius]

http://www.washingto...3d19_story.html

 

I'll take the "anti-science" guys that create significantly more jobs than the job-killing, over regulating liberals you support any day of the week.

 

"The state has added more than 200,000 jobs in three years. Unemployment has fallen from 10.4 percent in January 2011, then eighth-highest in the nation, to 6.2 percent, one of the largest improvements among the states in the past 13 quarters. The Tax Foundation says North Carolina’s business-tax climate may go from the nation’s seventh-worst to the 17th-best. In 2013, the Census Bureau estimated that North Carolina was just 48,000 residents behind Michigan, so by now this state probably has replaced Michigan as the ninth-most populous state."

 

 

Ummm....doesn't that unemployment rate just basically match what's been going on in the rest of Obamaland?

 

 

 

 

 

[*]a government with insufficient power to peddle influence cannot peddle influence

[*]if there is no influence to sell, then their is no influence to buy

[*]with the inability to purchase influence, corporations will not be able to wield disproportional advantage in the crafting of law

 

 

Marx talked about the "withering away of the state," too. And you seem to also be hinting at the classless society he was longing for as well.

[Magox]

 

 

 

Ummm....doesn't that unemployment rate just basically match what's been going on in the rest of Obamaland?

 

If you didn't lack basic reading and comprehension skills this question would have never been posed.

 

Look at your question and now look at what I posted

 

"The state has added more than 200,000 jobs in three years. Unemployment has fallen from 10.4 percent in January 2011, then eighth-highest in the nation, to 6.2 percent, one of the largest improvements among the states in the past 13 quarters.

 

 

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=LN_cpsbref3

 

9.1 percent in January of 2011 for the national rate to 6.3 percent for the current rate.

 

Meaning that the decline has been considerably faster than the National rate. Coincidence? Most likely, no.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Marx talked about the "withering away of the state," too. And you seem to also be hinting at the classless society he was longing for as well.

Marx was refering to the Utopian Socialist notion that from his revolution would emerge a "new socialist man", whom required no coercion or coercive force to redistribute wealth. It was an absurd vision in which all production was centralized, but had no center to administer it's machinations.

 

This nonsense is wholly different than the belief that things should be decentralized, resulting in a lesser need for a cental state.

[Tiberius]

 

This nonsense is wholly different than the belief that things should be decentralized, resulting in a lesser need for a cental state.

Oh, their theory of a better society is nonsense? lol

[TakeYouToTasker]

Oh, their theory of a better society is nonsense? lol

Quite.

 

Utopian Socialist man never emerged, and humans continued to see the world through their own eyes, as they have throughout all of human history, as was biologically inevitable. Further, Marx's whole premise for his "withering of the state" was entirely predicated on this magical emergence, as centralized collective ownership of all production requires either a massive government beauracracy, or a society with Marx's ideal hive mind to administer.

 

When your entire theory relies on people being something other than people, your theory is broken and illogical.

Edited June 3, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker

[Tiberius]

Quite.

 

Utopian Socialist man never emerged, and humans continued to see the world through their own eyes, as they have throughout all of human history, as was biologically inevitable. Further, Marx's whole premise for his "withering of the state" was entirely predicated on this magical emergence, as centralized collective ownership of all production requires either a massive government beauracracy, or a society with Marx's ideal hive mind to administer.

 

When your entire theory relies on people being something other than people, your theory is broken and illogical.

How is that any more wacky than your anarchy?

[TakeYouToTasker]

How is that any more wacky than your anarchy?

Let me know when you're going to start acting like a grownup, and stop strawmaning and arguing dishonestly.

[Taro T]

Quite.

 

Utopian Socialist man never emerged, and humans continued to see the world through their own eyes, as they have throughout all of human history, as was biologically inevitable. Further, Marx's whole premise for his "withering of the state" was entirely predicated on this magical emergence, as centralized collective ownership of all production requires either a massive government beauracracy, or a society with Marx's ideal hive mind to administer.

 

When your entire theory relies on people being something other than people, your theory is broken and illogical.

Not even taking into account Marx totally missing the rise of the middle class.

[birdog1960]

http://www.washingto...3d19_story.html

 

I'll take the "anti-science" guys that create significantly more jobs than the job-killing, over regulating liberals you support any day of the week.

yeah, who cares what the truth is. expediency and efficiency are what really matter... Edited June 3, 2014 by birdog1960

[TakeYouToTasker]

Not even taking into account Marx totally missing the rise of the middle class.

That's the thing: as obvious as that is, we don't even need to look at historical capital advancments.

 

We can stop when the guy espousing his theories never manages to improve on the work of his predessors which openly relied on pre-roasted chickens flying through windows, and landing on serving platters of the families of new Socialist Man.