GunnerBill Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I need to ask: How is a pass rushing OLB a necessity when you have Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes? I don't think it's about necessity, so much as it's about the guy just being such a special talent. He is certainly a more complete 3 down player than Jerry Hughes, he can do more than just get after the QB. I think he could play in the 4-3 defense as well, that's not a big concern for me... although Agent91 will have seen much more of him than I.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 While I doubt he could be there, Mack is a 3 down LB and would most certainly be BPA if he was there at 9. The Bills would be foolish to pass that type of player up. I don't see him making it past Atlanta or TB as he would fill a need for them and be BPA when they pick.
BigBuff423 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Posted February 28, 2014 For a loss. Not overall tackles Still impressive in my mind...
K-9 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 As I said in other posts. Mack is a he'll of a player. Getting the privilege of watching ever home UB game he played in, he is special. But a slam dunk pick for last years bills. I do NOT see his fit in a 43. His senior season in college they tried to market him as a jack lb. And he looked way more natural in the 2 point. I have yet to see him as a cover guy you can line up in the slot against Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski, ASJ, or even Ebron. He is gonna destroy any running back and his respective Q.B. so as much as I would like him to stay in the queen city I think there are other options. In a 43 I like Kyle Van Noy personally. You don't see ANY linebacker on ANY team man up against the Graham and Gronkowski in space and shut them down. There aren't any safeties that can do that either. GO BILLS!!!
BigBuff423 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Posted February 28, 2014 I don't think the cowboys have a 2nd round pick which makes them a poor trade partner for moving up at I would only move up if you get a 2nd in the deal. From what I can see through some quick Google information, Cowboys have a pick in each round except the 6th...but, someone might be able to answer that more definitively.... I don't think the cowboys have a 2nd round pick which makes them a poor trade partner for moving up at I would only move up if you get a 2nd in the deal. From what I can see through some quick Google information, Cowboys have a pick in each round except the 6th...but, someone might be able to answer that more definitively.... I don't think the cowboys have a 2nd round pick which makes them a poor trade partner for moving up at I would only move up if you get a 2nd in the deal. From what I can see through some quick Google information, Cowboys have a pick in each round except the 6th...but, someone might be able to answer that more definitively....
Kirby Jackson Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I need to ask: How is a pass rushing OLB a necessity when you have Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes? As people have said he is a 3 down LB who happens to be able to rush the passer. In addition, Hughes is in a contract year. If he is a 10+ sack guy again I highly doubt that the Bills can afford to keep him (there's another thread for that though). It's just something to keep in mind.
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 You don't see ANY linebacker on ANY team man up against the Graham and Gronkowski in space and shut them down. There aren't any safeties that can do that either. GO BILLS!!! See: Luke Keuchly, DPOY, in the MNF game against NE. Gronk ate him for lunch in space. I didn't see the Carolina-NO games so don't know how he matched up against Graham. But the Gronk matchup was glaring to me.
Agent 91 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I need to ask: How is a pass rushing OLB a necessity when you have Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes? A question I want answered too. And even though he isnt a pass rusher. What would you do with Manny Lawson. You dont draft Mack at 9 and sit him. And you would be hard pressed to find out what to do with the 4 of them.
Baba Booey Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Evans is the freakish size and speed that has #1 written all over him.
thebandit27 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 There are pass rushers that play LB, and then there are LBs that can rush the passer...Mack is the latter. Keep in mind that this is a kid that led the conference in interceptions as well as sacks; he's a classic Sam LB in a 43, but could also play the Will.
machine gun kelly Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I see Clowny going to Atlanta, and Tampa taking Mack. I could see us taking Mike Evans as a true #1 WR.
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Among the top 4-6 linebackers, CJ Mosely (IMHO) would be the best fit for the Bills as a MLB with Kiko moving to the outside. We would then have two fast savy mobile linebackers to clean up runners and QB's who squeeze by gaps in our aggressive front 4. It would be a real scary front 7. Having said that, Mack is projected to be a beast as a pass rushing type outside linebacker. I wonder if he might also be projected to fit and play very well in our defense in the same role that I am projecting fro CJ? Just because Mack would be great as a 3-4 rush guy does not mean that he might also be lights-out as a speedy 4-3 MLB. This is beyond my data and sources to say if Mack would work better.
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Among the top 4-6 linebackers, CJ Mosely (IMHO) would be the best fit for the Bills as a MLB with Kiko moving to the outside. We would then have two fast savy mobile linebackers to clean up runners and QB's who squeeze by gaps in our aggressive front 4. It would be a real scary front 7. Having said that, Mack is projected to be a beast as a pass rushing type outside linebacker. I wonder if he might also be projected to fit and play very well in our defense in the same role that I am projecting fro CJ? Just because Mack would be great as a 3-4 rush guy does not mean that he might also be lights-out as a speedy 4-3 MLB. This is beyond my data and sources to say if Mack would work better. It is JMO that if the Bills drafted Mack, they would keep Kiko at MLB - Kahlil would be SLB and Lawson WLB. Kahlil is both bigger and faster than Kiko, but I think (although he is very versatile) because of his ability to stop the run, that is where he would ideally fit. Edited March 2, 2014 by YoloinOhio
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I really believe he could be the best LB in the game.... TAKE HIM!!!!
thebandit27 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Among the top 4-6 linebackers, CJ Mosely (IMHO) would be the best fit for the Bills as a MLB with Kiko moving to the outside. We would then have two fast savy mobile linebackers to clean up runners and QB's who squeeze by gaps in our aggressive front 4. It would be a real scary front 7. Having said that, Mack is projected to be a beast as a pass rushing type outside linebacker. I wonder if he might also be projected to fit and play very well in our defense in the same role that I am projecting fro CJ? Just because Mack would be great as a 3-4 rush guy does not mean that he might also be lights-out as a speedy 4-3 MLB. This is beyond my data and sources to say if Mack would work better. If the Bills draft Mack he'd play the Will spot with Kiko staying in the middle. That said, just about the only LB position Mack doesn't fit is the Mike (in either the 34 or 43). I could even see him playing the Will in a 34 (similar to the position Pettine wanted Kiko to play last year). It is JMO that if the Bills drafted Mack, they would keep Kiko at MLB - Kahlil would be SLB and Lawson WLB. Kahlil is both bigger and faster than Kiko, but I think (although he is very versatile) because of his ability to stop the run, that is where he would ideally fit. I think Lawson stays at Sam because he can line up over the TE an keep Mack free against the 7th blocker...just my opinion though
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 If the Bills draft Mack he'd play the Will spot with Kiko staying in the middle. That said, just about the only LB position Mack doesn't fit is the Mike (in either the 34 or 43). I could even see him playing the Will in a 34 (similar to the position Pettine wanted Kiko to play last year). I think Lawson stays at Sam because he can line up over the TE an keep Mack free against the 7th blocker...just my opinion though The great thing about Mack, which is why he will be drafted so high, is his versatility. I think coaches drool over prospects who have so many places they could not only play, but excel. Teams love his in order to be able to deal with injuries, future FAs leaving, etc. I like the idea of him at WLB, he would be a monster.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 The great thing about Mack, which is why he will be drafted so high, is his versatility. I think coaches drool over prospects who have so many places they could not only play, but excel. Teams love his in order to be able to deal with injuries, future FAs leaving, etc. I like the idea of him at WLB, he would be a monster. I think that is what some people are missing about Mack. He is not Dion Jordan, Kiki Mingo or a pass rushing specialist. He is an elite pass rusher but he is a complete LB. He can play the run, drop into coverage, etc... That's why the scouts love him so much. It's hard to find players as complete as he is. He is a high floor, high ceiling guy.
artmalibu Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Before saying take him or trade back we need to know what other teams are willing to offer. To pass on a super star to take your chances on an extra lower pick doesent make sense. If he is that good a team should be willing to give picks next year too.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Today is Mack's Pro Day. Pettine among many in town to get a 1st hand look.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 @Rich1270TheFan Khalil ran unofficial 4.53 pro day 40
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