dubs Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Honestly I don't know what the Saints are thinking. They released a lot of players and those players have to be replaced, they also have a rookie class they have to worry about. No doubt, but they did it. May backfire but I just thought it was hilarious people were saying there was no way NO could sign Byrd given their cap situation as they were flying him in. As if NO hadn't thought that through.
hondo in seattle Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Visiting the Saints is a Joke they have no money he would have to accept the league minimum to sign there. Funny joke.
GG Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 As with Levitre, it wasn't so much the loss of the player, but the inability to plug the hole that the player left. There was a huge run on safeties today. I think Bills go with a stop gap of Ryan Clark for this year and hope that Duke Williams develops.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I am fine with this. It would not have been wise to pay two safeties that kind of money. If they use the money to address the OL and then draft well they will be better off IMO. I just wish that it wasn't NOLA so I didn't have to listen to my annoying friends. Edited March 12, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
Fixxxer Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I think the Cowboys are making moves to see if they can sign Byrd. Ware and Austin are gone. As I was saying, I think he ends up with the Saints.
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Retweeted by Tim Graham Mike Rodak @mikerodak 41s Per @AdamSchefter, Byrd’s 6-year deal is worth $54 million, with $28 million guaranteed. That’s $9 million per season.
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Honestly I don't know what the Saints are thinking. They released a lot of players and those players have to be replaced, they also have a rookie class they have to worry about. They released guys they think have been replaced largely. And they still have the draft and some room in free agency. Will smith was a guy without a position in Ryan's defense that played half a season in the last two years Harper and Jenkins are replaced by Byrd and vaccaro (might be one of the best duos in the league( Thomas and Sproles are over 30 and Sproles had a fairly big decline last year. They love khiry Robinson who had 21 carries for 102 yards in the playoffs last year and couldn't reasonably have a 4 man rotation in the backfield and expect anyone to succeed. Both Sproles and pt likely on the team today because they are finalizing trades to get value back Vilma hadn't played in 2 years Greer will be lucky to play in the nfl again, and keenen Lewis was signed to take his spot as #1 cb last year Bunkley will likely be gone but has been replaced by John Jenkins moving forward Plus they are getting guys like Kenyon Coleman and victor butler who were signed by rob ryan and injured in preseason back healthy this year. They got younger, healthier, faster, and better fits to the schemes in many of these. I am fine with this. It would not have been wise to pay two safeties that kind of money. If they use the money to address the OL and then draft well they will be better off IMO. I just wish that it wasn't NOLA so I didn't have to listen to my annoying friends. For a possible probowl pair 14-15m a year wouldn't have upset me one bit. Edited March 12, 2014 by NoSaint
Nitro Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I am glad the Byrd saga is over WGR will have Schopp and Bulldog BBQing the Bills. I don't see this as a huge lose. Good luck to him.
Fixxxer Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 @Pete Prisco @PriscoCBS 4m So who plays RT and C for the Saints?
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I think Byrd will do well there but that's a lot of bread for a safety. Consider that he got 10 million more per year guaranteed than Goldson, and a million more per in average, plus another year.
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I think Byrd will do well there but that's a lot of bread for a safety. Consider that he got 10 million more per year guaranteed than Goldson, and a million more per in average, plus another year. He obviously will not see all 6 years.... I could see spending that cash on a safety if your have crappy and cheap CBs; just way too rich for my blood especially with AWs new contract....we have other holes more important to fill... I do hate to lose him for nothing, but at least he flipped conferences
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 He obviously will not see all 6 years.... I could see spending that cash on a safety if your have crappy and cheap CBs; just way too rich for my blood especially with AWs new contract....we have other holes more important to fill... I do hate to lose him for nothing, but at least he flipped conferences Yeah, I don't think so, but as noted in the Shoutbox: they cannot possibly cut him before year 4 without eating a ton of cap space, and they just gave him $4MM more guaranteed than we gave Mario Williams. Sick money. On a safety. I thought closer to the Goldson contract was reasonable, even if expensive.
GG Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I think Byrd will do well there but that's a lot of bread for a safety. Consider that he got 10 million more per year guaranteed than Goldson, and a million more per in average, plus another year. I thought Goldson's guarantee was $22mil?
KOKBILLS Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I thought Goldson's guarantee was $22mil? That is correct...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I thought Goldson's guarantee was $22mil? Spotrac doesn't show a bonus but says $18MM guaranteed. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/dashon-goldson/
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah, I don't think so, but as noted in the Shoutbox: they cannot possibly cut him before year 4 without eating a ton of cap space, and they just gave him $4MM more guaranteed than we gave Mario Williams. Sick money. On a safety. I thought closer to the Goldson contract was reasonable, even if expensive. Year 4 sounds about right....If you feel you are only a safety a way you go for it; but they do have plenty of questions..... Too rich of a contract (2nd behind only Brees); can you imagine that Jimmy Graham will make less; he scores a lot more the Byrd.... Which gets into the how do you assign a dollar amount on a position
Bills1218 Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 But hey, it's cool, we did sign a kicker today. Only 23 starting positions to go...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 For a possible probowl pair 14-15m a year wouldn't have upset me one bit. I guess that I think that they have guys that can fill Byrd's role. If that same $9M lands you Strief and Spikes for example I think the team is better. I really like Duke Williams & think that Searcy is adequate. I would not have paid Byrd that much. I pitched 4 years, $32M w/ $22M guarenteed earlier in the thread. That would have been my cieling when I saw the market for Ward, Delmas, etc.. Byrd helps the Saints for sure but their OL could be a disaster now. I would think that De La Puente and Strief are gone for 2.
Solomon Grundy Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Can we close the book and this thread on Jairus Byrd now?
papazoid Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Can we close the book and this thread on Jairus Byrd now? party pooper
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