....lybob Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/ again there are no free markets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 All those tech workers (who are treated as near gods here in the bay area) are free to work wherever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 All those tech workers (who are treated as near gods here in the bay area) are free to work wherever they want. No they are free not to work wherever they don't want - not quite the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I don't think you understand what free markets are... Contract law (legal voluntary agreement) is an essential component. Edited February 13, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I don't think you understand what free markets are... He doesn't even understand what "free to work wherever they want" means. Although I think the best part is that the contrapositive to this situation - poaching competitors' employees and wage/compensation transparency - is the sort of system that results in the over-inflated compensation packages in the financial industry that he also decries. I just love his hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 No they are free not to work wherever they don't want - not quite the same thing. I have a feeling you either a) didn't read the article b) didn't understand the article or c) are talking out your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have a feeling you either a) didn't read the article b) didn't understand the article or c) are talking out your ass. He could be all three. He is THAT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 http://pando.com/201...ngineers-wages/ again there are no free markets There's a Sarah Palin thread going on right now. Didn't you get the notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I don't think you understand what free markets are... Contract law (legal voluntary agreement) is an essential component. What if the agreement is forced upon smaller businesses by larger monopolistic ones using the threat of economic retaliation? Do you anti government people, or libertarians or whatever you are, support anti trust laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 He doesn't even understand what "free to work wherever they want" means. Although I think the best part is that the contrapositive to this situation - poaching competitors' employees and wage/compensation transparency - is the sort of system that results in the over-inflated compensation packages in the financial industry that he also decries. I just love his hypocrisy. well that's because the financial industry is essentially parasitic not creative plus they were being bailed out from the Government because they were insolvent, as a CEO of an insolvent company your bonus should be squat, you are on welfare and should be drug tested- and let me get you right, you believe a company failing so badly that it needs government support is being put upon if the government asks for limits to bonuses because it interferes with the free market but support CEOs who conspire together to keep down wages- you really need a mustache to twirl and a monocle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 well that's because the financial industry is essentially parasitic not creative plus they were being bailed out from the Government because they were insolvent, as a CEO of an insolvent company your bonus should be squat, you are on welfare and should be drug tested- and let me get you right, you believe a company failing so badly that it needs government support is being put upon if the government asks for limits to bonuses because it interferes with the free market but support CEOs who conspire together to keep down wages- you really need a mustache to twirl and a monocle Great stuff man! Drug testing bailed out CEOs!! Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 What if the agreement is forced upon smaller businesses by larger monopolistic ones using the threat of economic retaliation? Do you anti government people, or libertarians or whatever you are, support anti trust laws? The only "monopolistic" businesses are those that exist by virtue of big government . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 well that's because the financial industry is essentially parasitic not creative plus they were being bailed out from the Government because they were insolvent, as a CEO of an insolvent company your bonus should be squat, you are on welfare and should be drug tested- and let me get you right, you believe a company failing so badly that it needs government support is being put upon if the government asks for limits to bonuses because it interferes with the free market but support CEOs who conspire together to keep down wages- you really need a mustache to twirl and a monocle Parasitic bankers....parasitic bankers......where have I heard that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 well that's because the financial industry is essentially parasitic not creative plus they were being bailed out from the Government because they were insolvent, as a CEO of an insolvent company your bonus should be squat, you are on welfare and should be drug tested- and let me get you right, you believe a company failing so badly that it needs government support is being put upon if the government asks for limits to bonuses because it interferes with the free market but support CEOs who conspire together to keep down wages- you really need a mustache to twirl and a monocle The financial industry is not creative? I thought their creativity got us in this mess. Which is it man?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The computer and software industries should be as heavily regulated as the financial institutions and insurance companies are. THAT would lower costs, increase competition, and provide better healthcare coverage for the entire nation. Only when business is regulated will we have fairness and wealth spread around fairly. Oh, and it's a floor wax and a desert topping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The only "monopolistic" businesses are those that exist by virtue of big government . Classic! Only government can be bad, lol. That is pretty funny. You really remind me of those old Marxist that were completely dogmatic to their ideology, only you have a different ideology. So what's your take on this then: http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/13/news/companies/visa-mastercard-settlement/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'll repeat myself, since you seem a bit slow on the uptake: The only businesses that result in monopolies are those that do so as a result of government. To your link, two points: 1. Anti-trust suits against businesses are nothing more than Mafioso strong arm tactics. It costs the accused businesses more to defend themselves than it does to pay the fines, so they pay the fines; furthermore this is by design. 2. What are the start-up costs for a business seeking to offer unsecured lines of credit, as relates to meeting industry regulatory guidelines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'll repeat myself, since you seem a bit slow on the uptake: The only businesses that result in monopolies are those that do so as a result of government. To your link, two points: 1. Anti-trust suits against businesses are nothing more than Mafioso strong arm tactics. It costs the accused businesses more to defend themselves than it does to pay the fines, so they pay the fines; furthermore this is by design. 2. What are the start-up costs for a business seeking to offer unsecured lines of credit, as relates to meeting industry regulatory guidelines? 1. So, your argument is that the government is criminally helping small business for a profit? The mafia works for a profit, so I'm not seeing what the government gets for this. Yes, I'm slow at understanding your "logic" because it makes no sense. Are the small business owners criminals too? 2. I don't know, what are they? There's a Sarah Palin thread going on right now. Didn't you get the notice? Again with the complete nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 1. So, your argument is that the government is criminally helping small business for a profit? The mafia works for a profit, so I'm not seeing what the government gets for this. Yes, I'm slow at understanding your "logic" because it makes no sense. Are the small business owners criminals too? 2. I don't know, what are they? Again with the complete nonsense? I won't bother explaining it to you because I doubt you could understand even if you weren't too new to know what it is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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