SageAgainstTheMachine Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It can be both. I do not approve as in I think practicing homosexual behavior is a sin. But, I do not care if he is a practicing homosexual. That is his call to make. Muslims believe drinking is a sin. Jews believe eating pork is a sin. They don't approve of these things, but they don't care that I drink and eat pork. I know they think it's sinful and respect that. Fair enough.
RyanC883 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I'm sure his agent is thrilled that he'll probably be dropping a round in the draft and ready for all sorts of lucrative gay-oriented endorsements. Are you serious? You obviously aren't seeing the kinds of questions that scouts are asking players, then. His agent is prob already getting calls from Nike or Starbucks. Not sure where you live, but many people will want to buy something with his name on it for being the first openly gay player. Nike already makes "gay" oriented appeal. Gm's will prob ask him how he would deal with morons who use slurs toward him. I doubt Whaley, Colbert, and GMs from other classy organizations will harass him. That's why I said I hope he ends up on a professionally run team (Buffalo, pit, GB, etc). I wish him nothing but the best. I don't see him falling. if the Bills miss an opportunity to get him at a good value/ where he should be and don't I'll be upset. Edited February 10, 2014 by RyanC883
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Speaking of 42 I just watched the movie yesterday. Amazing, that wasn't that long ago. The key difference, of course, is that there are most likely dozens of gay NFL players who simply choose not to disclose that information. I respect Michael Sam chiefly because he could have chosen anonymity over the circus that's coming his way.
RyanC883 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I think the NHL had a "if you can play, play" commercial out last year regarding this topic.
Buftex Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Best comment, in the comments on Deadspin article: Elton John (to Sam): Don't worry, it gets bet...(interrupted by TV) Announcer: And with the 11th pick in the fifth round, the Detroit Lions pick Michael Sam, defensive end, Missouri Elton John: So sorry...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It can be both. I do not approve as in I think practicing homosexual behavior is a sin. But, I do not care if he is a practicing homosexual. That is his call to make. Muslims believe drinking is a sin. Jews believe eating pork is a sin. They don't approve of these things, but they don't care that I drink and eat pork. I know they think it's sinful and respect that. Comparing drinking and eating bacon to being gay is pretty awful, I know the point you are making but they are not the same at all.
FluffHead Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Comparing drinking and eating bacon to being gay is pretty awful, I know the point you are making but they are not the same at all. That is, according to you.
Mr. WEO Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I'm sure his agent is thrilled that he'll probably be dropping a round in the draft and ready for all sorts of lucrative gay-oriented endorsements. Are you serious? You obviously aren't seeing the kinds of questions that scouts are asking players, then. Oh come on...look at the biggest advertisers on televised football games. Trucks--ads filled with construction workers and cowboys doing extreme macho acts with their oversized rides. Totally butch. Beer--all feature twee thin scruffy hipsters hanging out in "sports bars" ordering lite beers or hard ciders. Car insurance--is GEICO's "Flo" not the Judy Garland of insurance ads?
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 That is, according to you. You are correct, eating bacon and getting hammered are the same as two people of the same sex having a sexual relationship.
BarleyNY Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Comparing drinking and eating bacon to being gay is pretty awful, I know the point you are making but they are not the same at all. You're right. The bible refers to eating swine as an abomination four more times than it does homosexuality. Eating pork is clearly far, far worse from a biblical standpoint. And on that note, I'd like to come out as an eater of pork - bacon, ribs, ham, loin - I'm into it all. Ok, not the hocks, chitlins or feet, but most of it. And I'm not going away anytime soon, so you'd better get used to me. On a serious note, good for Mike Sam. It's better to live his life truthfully than try to BS everyone {coughTe'ocough}. I'm glad he had the courage to do so. It will help those that follow and hopefully help things along to a point where this isn't even a point of conversation anymore.
sodbuster Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 His agent is prob already getting calls from Nike or Starbucks. Not sure where you live, but many people will want to buy something with his name on it for being the first openly gay player. Nike already makes "gay" oriented appeal. Gm's will prob ask him how he would deal with morons who use slurs toward him. I doubt Whaley, Colbert, and GMs from other classy organizations will harass him. That's why I said I hope he ends up on a professionally run team (Buffalo, pit, GB, etc). I wish him nothing but the best. I don't see him falling. if the Bills miss an opportunity to get him at a good value/ where he should be and don't I'll be upset. Haha... I agree with you, but the part where you said Buffalo was a professional organization fired up my inferiority complex.
jimmy10 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Leviticus tells us homosexuality is a sin, as is touching the skin of a pig. Exodus tells us working on Sunday is a sin. Man, that's three for three. If he gets drafted, this guy would be the sinniest football player that ever sinned.
Beerball Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I admire his courage. He's in for a possible tumultuous draft process with media controversy and ultimately we will see how he is received and treated in the NFL. One thing for sure he has brass stones. With scouts asking questions of his agent I can see why he made the announcement, still, a very difficult thing for him to do I would imagine.
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 So he should have waited for the media to find out? If he does that then the media gets to dictate the terms of the story, by announcing it he controls his story.
FluffHead Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 You are correct, eating bacon and getting hammered are the same as two people of the same sex having a sexual relationship. Obviously you believe there is something wrong with being gay. Muslims believe there is something wrong with drinking alcohol and Jews believe there is something wrong with eating pork. What's the difference? It is all about the individuals beliefs. I believe there is nothing wrong with any of those things.
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Obviously you believe there is something wrong with being gay. Muslims believe there is something wrong with drinking alcohol and Jews believe there is something wrong with eating pork. What's the difference? It is all about the individuals beliefs. I believe there is nothing wrong with any of those things. We mixed signals somewhere, I have no issue with him coming out or gay people in general.
zevo Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Liberals attack conservatives.....conservatives attack liberals...you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming of olympic ice dancing.
boyst Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 honest question and I hope other members do not make sniping comments but bY our logic is it fair to say Jackie Robinson should have stayed in the Negro leagues or never went to MLB? Because nothing more was gained for him by going to MLB?
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