Jauronimo Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I believe homosexuality is both by choice and from birth. Let me explain. You're not actually gay until you have sex with somebody from the same sex. For example, a person with homicidal thoughts isn't a murderer until he kills someone. Make sense? So by that logic, you're not actually straight?
NoSaint Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) So by that logic, you're not actually straight? jauronimo wins the thread. stallworth with a pretty good take on this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/10/donte-stallworth-michael-sam_n_4761724.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009 Edited February 11, 2014 by NoSaint
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) jauronimo wins the thread. stallworth with a pretty good take on this: http://www.huffingto...kusaolp00000009 Nice, me and Donte are on the same page. I said upthread, if any organization could handle the media circus, or not really let the media circus get going in the first place, it's the Pats. Say what you will about that team, but they are very good at remaining tight-lipped, and on message. Edited February 11, 2014 by jimmyo
Justice Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 So by that logic, you're not actually straight? Very funny, juvenile, but still funny. Well played!
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 So by that logic, you're not actually straight? Ba....BOOOOOMM!! Nice, me and Donte are on the same page. I said upthread, if any organization could handle the media circus, or not really let the media circus get going in the first place, it's the Pats. Say what you will about that team, but they are very good at remaining tight-lipped, and on message. Well, if there is one place better to avoid the national press than Buffalo, I can't think of it. I believe homosexuality is both by choice and from birth. Let me explain. You're not actually gay until you have sex with somebody from the same sex. For example, a person with homicidal thoughts isn't a murderer until he kills someone. Make sense? None.
Justice Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Makes no sense, huh? Okay then, I've gotta question for you guys, do you believe God punishes us for our thoughts or our actions?
Numark Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Makes no sense, huh? Okay then, I've gotta question for you guys, do you believe God punishes us for our thoughts or our actions? No
jimmy10 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Isn't being a Bills fan enough cosmic punishment?
Numark Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I believe homosexuality is both by choice and from birth. Let me explain. You're not actually gay until you have sex with somebody from the same sex. For example, a person with homicidal thoughts isn't a murderer until he kills someone. Make sense? ....being gay is being sexually attracted to someone of the same sex. It's not actually having sex. By your thought process virgins don't have a sexual orientation
millbank Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) I believe what consenting individuals do is their personal business, as it is mine. It is not our place to make judgement on what others do , but to do the best we each can do, at best our lives in action encouragement for others not what we say but what we do. It is obvious knowingly or unknowing, we have had gay teachers, nurses, professional people trades people, acquaintances , fellow workers/employees be part of our lives, at no time have I asked another individual this personal part of their lives. As for far to long it was commented when a black was afforded the same opportunity as anyone else , in sport, vocational career or otherwise , today thankfully it is the norm and not so exceptional to deserve comment, hopefully this will be true with those of different personal life choices of this nature. Am somewhat disappointed had thought this was amongst most not a issue to be considered as in not being a big deal. Hopefully this man will not go through his entire career with the first gay attached to everything he may or may not accomplish in football. In short when I am watching a game hardly am I considering the participants personal relationships . I do not see as of any import what I think is right or wrong my place on this issue for me to impose judgement . Edited February 11, 2014 by millbank
Dorkington Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Makes no sense, huh? Okay then, I've gotta question for you guys, do you believe God punishes us for our thoughts or our actions? God isn't fact.
kickedface Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 nope that's a circus for anyone who picks him up.
Dorkington Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Tim, sexuality is not really black or white, and not easily definable, in reality. Society likes to have nice neat labels for people to fall into, but things like the Kinsey scale are probably more accurate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
starrymessenger Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Makes no sense, huh? Okay then, I've gotta question for you guys, do you believe God punishes us for our thoughts or our actions? God is a relentless road grader who punishes people for no better reason than his own amusement. Unfortunately for us that is a good and sufficient reason. There is no getting away from him. He's too good. You can't beat him. So just draft him at 9 already.
D521646 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Dorkington – Tim, sexuality is not really black or white, and not easily definable, in reality. Society likes to have nice neat labels for people to fall into, but things like the Kinsey scale are probably more accurate Agreed, and that’s all I’ve been really trying to convey, among other things, that drive by onlookers are so quick to judge on both sides of the debate. I would warn a little though about using Kinsey as a reliable source for discussions revolving around sexuality. He’s generally considered sort of a quack, and his scales have been shown to be inaccurate by contemporary measures, not to mention some of his ideas on sexuality as it were. That said, he did have some intriguing posits on sex and sexuality and still worth reading about for anyone looking at the history of the issue. The point I initially raised about humans having a primarily heterosexual potential at birth though coincides, or is at least not refuted by anything anyone else has presented thus far, nor any scientist research that I’ve ever read on the subject. Granted it is a hypothesis of mine, I like to think of it as a well-reasoned one, but none the less one that is at the moment not testable. Point being that I do not believe hat there is a homosexual, or bi-sexual, or any sexual or sexuality gene. We are who we are based on our experiences and our experiences train us to fall into one, two or three or any number of sexual attractive markers, and these markers are all primarily set prior to the maturation of our brains wiring, namely the prefrontal cortex. Regards, Tim-
Numark Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Dorkington – Agreed, and that’s all I’ve been really trying to convey, among other things, that drive by onlookers are so quick to judge on both sides of the debate. I would warn a little though about using Kinsey as a reliable source for discussions revolving around sexuality. He’s generally considered sort of a quack, and his scales have been shown to be inaccurate by contemporary measures, not to mention some of his ideas on sexuality as it were. That said, he did have some intriguing posits on sex and sexuality and still worth reading about for anyone looking at the history of the issue. The point I initially raised about humans having a primarily heterosexual potential at birth though coincides, or is at least not refuted by anything anyone else has presented thus far, nor any scientist research that I’ve ever read on the subject. Granted it is a hypothesis of mine, I like to think of it as a well-reasoned one, but none the less one that is at the moment not testable. Point being that I do not believe hat there is a homosexual, or bi-sexual, or any sexual or sexuality gene. We are who we are based on our experiences and our experiences train us to fall into one, two or three or any number of sexual attractive markers, and these markers are all primarily set prior to the maturation of our brains wiring, namely the prefrontal cortex. Regards, Tim- Ah the irony of you having a hypothesis that cannot be tested. The same person who questions the methodology of psychological research.
4merper4mer Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Makes no sense, huh? Okay then, I've gotta question for you guys, do you believe God punishes us for our thoughts or our actions? Yes.
Security Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 jauronimo wins the thread. stallworth with a pretty good take on this: http://www.huffingto...kusaolp00000009 Murderer..........well, somewhat accidental and benficial of Florida law DUI Murderer.
4merper4mer Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Tim, sexuality is not really black or white, and not easily definable, in reality. Society likes to have nice neat labels for people to fall into, but things like the Kinsey scale are probably more accurate. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Kinsey_scale That was made up by commies to once again co-opt something that has nothing to do with politics and make it a commie thing.
D521646 Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Numark, I'm about done with you, you're not making any sense? What do you think a hypothesis is? More importantly, why do you see irony there? I question all methodology no matter what source or on any subject. Tim-
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