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How will Jerry Hughes fit into Schwartz' scheme? He's never used his LB's to blitz much and I don't think that Hughes can hold up as a DE. Is he someone the Bills should consider moving? What could they get for him (10 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 46 tackles)?

 

I don't see him having a role outside of obvious passing downs (maybe) & question whether he's worth more to someone else than the Bills.

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Keep please.

 

All I needed to do was watch the effect that Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett--guys that are primarily pass-rushers and not very effective against the run--to be reminded of what a guy like Hughes can do when put in the position to succeed.

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I like Hughes a lot but I see your point. If he is a situational guy, would it make better sense to get a player who can play 3 or 4 downs (ahem...offense) like a TE or Guard. Straight up trades these days are rare (Hughes for Shepp was the last one I can think of). I wouldn't mind a 3rd or 4th pick for him, but would prefer to get a player who can be on the field more.

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I would keep Hughes and pretty much only play him at DE on passing downs. He can still probably produce more than the player you'd get in return for him.

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Of yiu could receive at minimum a 3rd and 4th for him, I'd say in a heartbeat. He is limited and with a 3rd or 4th rounder yiu could find someone that's in the field a lot more. Like another OLB that is at least as good or better than Lawson. We would be much better against the run in that regard.

 

But you'd need at least 2 picks of 4th round or better. Unless it's a 2nd and that ain't happening.

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I see both sides in this case. Do you sell while his value is high or did he turn the corner last year? I guess that I would be okay either way as long as the value that you receive in return is comparable. Hughes did have 10 sacks last year so I would not trade him for less than a starting caliber player. Even if he is a situational pass rusher he can still play an important role on this team. With that being said, he is entering free agency after the upcoming season (I think) so I wonder if that is a factor? If he has another double digit sack season he will become a very expensive situational pass rusher.

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I see both sides in this case. Do you sell while his value is high or did he turn the corner last year? I guess that I would be okay either way as long as the value that you receive in return is comparable. Hughes did have 10 sacks last year so I would not trade him for less than a starting caliber player. Even if he is a situational pass rusher he can still play an important role on this team. With that being said, he is entering free agency after the upcoming season (I think) so I wonder if that is a factor? If he has another double digit sack season he will become a very expensive situational pass rusher.

thats the joy of the franchise tag. He's listed as an OLB not a DE. So the franchise tag is a ton less for an OLB and we still get the production of a Good DE.

 

 

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I see both sides in this case. Do you sell while his value is high or did he turn the corner last year? I guess that I would be okay either way as long as the value that you receive in return is comparable. Hughes did have 10 sacks last year so I would not trade him for less than a starting caliber player. Even if he is a situational pass rusher he can still play an important role on this team. With that being said, he is entering free agency after the upcoming season (I think) so I wonder if that is a factor? If he has another double digit sack season he will become a very expensive situational pass rusher.

I think he was put in the right position last season and yes, I suppose he turned the corner. What I know of Schwartz' defense limits Hughes to a situational role at best (IMO). So, for me, it comes down to whether his value to Buffalo is higher or lower than another team.
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If we are going to trade Hughes what about the Bengals for Jermaine Gresham? Hughes could move into that James Harrison role and they used a 1st on Eifert last year. They could get a 2nd TE in the mid rounds (not that it matters with Dalton). Just throwing something out there...

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Of yiu could receive at minimum a 3rd and 4th for him, I'd say in a heartbeat. He is limited and with a 3rd or 4th rounder yiu could find someone that's in the field a lot more. Like another OLB that is at least as good or better than Lawson. We would be much better against the run in that regard.

 

But you'd need at least 2 picks of 4th round or better. Unless it's a 2nd and that ain't happening.

 

Or you could get nothing from a 3rd and 4th round pick. The draft is iffy after the first round. You hope to find good players in the mid to late rounds, but there are a lot of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks that don't ever pan out - and that isn't limited to just the Bills. I'd rather keep Hughes than trade him for a couple of mid round picks

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Keep him... Schwartz is going to adapt to the players we have here. He has said it himself. Not sure why people make the blatant assumption that he's going to change the scheme so drastically as to make one of our best moves in years meaningless. :wallbash:

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You don't dump young guys who can get after the passer, especially when they have favorable contracts. You stockpile guys like that and use them situationally, to your best advantage.

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You don't dump young guys who can get after the passer, especially when they have favorable contracts. You stockpile guys like that and use them situationally, to your best advantage.

 

Hughes has a favorable contract? Isn't it up this year?

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