BringBackFergy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm 44. I own the building where my office is located in town. As part of ownership, you have a corresponding duty to maintain the sidewalk in front of the building for pedestrians. At the beginning of the winter, I asked a young guy (age 21-23) if he'd be interested in handling the shoveling any time the snow falls over 2". Even though he still lived with his parents and I heard that he recently fathered a kid of his own, I knew he wasn't employed on a regular basis. Therefore, I offered him $10 to shovel the front walk each time. It is about 60ft long by 7 ft wide. I assumed a young man would want to shovel once on a morning like this (8" of snow) and then come back in the afternoon for another $10. I even suggested that he talk to the surrounding business owners and he could make $20/day x 8 buildings/businesses. It might help getting some clothes or food for his young baby (who lives 15 miles away). I arrived this morning and shoveled the sidewalk myself. It took me about 15 minutes. I think he is out snowboarding. I paid myself $10 from the operating account. Youngins'....psssshh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'd be grumpy if some old man paid me 10.00. Geeezus. Kid can barely get a combo meal at mcdonalds for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My 15 year old wouldn't do it for $10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 15 minutes goes into 60 minutes (1 hour) four times. 4 x $10 = $40/hour. What's not to like?? As I said, I am a grumpy old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Where does he live? Does he have to bring his own shovel? Does he have to drive? $10 just doesn't seem worth the effort involved 15 minutes goes into 60 minutes (1 hour) four times. 4 x $10 = $40/hour. What's not to like?? As I said, I am a grumpy old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Where does he live? Does he have to bring his own shovel? Does he have to drive? $10 just doesn't seem worth the effort involved He lives around the corner....about 300 feet down the road. My shovel sits outside the door...waiting, lonely, unloved. I guess I assumed a young guy (who has a back stronger than mine) would want to walk five minutes, bang out a 60ft section of sidewalk, get $10, go to the next business, get another $10, and then another, etc. and then come back this afternoon (as we anticipate more snow) and do it over again. He could make about $150/day cash. Shoot, I used to sell golf balls as a kid for $5.00/dozen in an egg carton and I had to climb through some nasty **** to generate revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 20.00 might get him out. I'd do it for 50.00 and a peek at your finest secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 20.00 might get him out. I'd do it for 50.00 and a peek at your finest secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 $10 is fair for each time he shovels a small amount of snow, given it could be a number of times in a day and his travel time zero. But when he need make extra effort as in the snowfall being more than a few inches or iced over and requiring a great deal of work he should be compensated fairly. One should not pay a person any less than they would expect for themselves for doing such work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I wudda offered him two bits...I can out grumpy old man you all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Grumpy old man? Pffffft. Dude you've got a lot to learn. I would have told that lazy !@#$ shovel my walk and I won't come kick him in the ass. And then I'd kick his parents in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) 60ft long by 7 ft wide --- $10 wont cut it. To him your not a Grumpy Old Man, your as cheap bastard 2 car lengths at 7 ft wide is at least a $20 Edited February 5, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) 15 minutes goes into 60 minutes (1 hour) four times. 4 x $10 = $40/hour. What's not to like?? As I said, I am a grumpy old man. Disagree. You expect him to get up in the freezing cold weather, go outside & shovel your sidewalk for $10? It is not worth the effort imo. Edited February 5, 2014 by Gordio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ten dollars doesn't compete with the government cheese he's getting. your slipping Doc, you forgot to say $10 wouldn't pay for his dime bag of crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Grumpy old man? Pffffft. Dude you've got a lot to learn. I would have told that lazy !@#$ shovel my walk and I won't come kick him in the ass. And then I'd kick his parents in the ass. Yeah & he would of kicked your wrinkled old *** right in front of all your employees. These younger kids don't put up with sh*t nowadays. You look at them cross eyed & they want to kick your a** Edited February 5, 2014 by Gordio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 60ft long by 7 ft wide --- $10 wont cut it. To him your not a Grumpy Old Man, your as cheap bastard 2 car length at 7 ft wide is at least a $20 See this would make sense if he was actually out doing the work or coming back with the counter offer but the lazy !@#$ is out spending mom and dad's cash snowboarding. Yeah & he would of kicked your wrinkled old *** right in front of all your employees. No, I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 See this would make sense if he was actually out doing the work or coming back with the counter offer but the lazy !@#$ is out spending mom and dad's cash snowboarding. you just said it he's got mom and dads cash and can go snowboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 you just said it he's got mom and dads cash and can go snowboarding That's why I said I'd kick their ass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 you just said it he's got mom and dads cash and can go snowboarding Exactly, why would he want to to shovel the sidewalk for a lousy $10 when he is mooching off mom & dad & enjoying the day snowboarding while his girlfriend is knee deep in dirty diapers & taking care of his screaming baby? It sounds like this kid has got his priorities straight & has a level head on his shoulders. I admire that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Exactly, why would he want to to shovel the sidewalk for a lousy $10 when he is mooching off mom & dad & enjoying the day snowboarding while his girlfriend is knee deep in dirty diapers & taking care of his screaming baby? It sounds like this kid has got his priorities straight & has a level head on his shoulders. I admire that. I'll kick your ass next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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