NoSaint Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 you are so full of hyperbole I'm surprised you can fit through the door The move was extremely puzzling at best. Cheap vet qb our GM liked and our coach was ok with Get him in late and coach feels more comfortable with the backup he's used for multiple years New coaches don't know if FA or draft will bring better qbs and decide to hold onto him cheap. Really the only extreme puzzle is why cut him so early
John from Riverside Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I still do not understand why he didnt at least get a chance while he was here.......
LB3 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I like Thaddeus Lewis and all, but who wouldn't have felt better, before Lewis was thrust into action, (or Jeff Tuel for that matter) if Tarvaris Jackson hadn't been the backup for EJ Manuel? Apparently the Bills felt that Kevin Kolb was so outstanding (based on what?) in OTA's that Jackson was expendable, before ever taking a single snap in a Buffalo BIlls uniform, in an actual game, pre-season or otherwise. Not thin skinned here. I couldn't care less about what he said. As to your first question above, I'd say that obviously the two different coaching staffs here in Buffalo thought he was worthless. I'd wager that Kolb playing "outstanding" in OTA's could more accurately be described by saying he outplayed TJax and the team did the nice thing by letting him go rather than stringing him along like Chan did (for reasons unknown to us). Maybe he couldn't understand Chan or Doug's system and he gets Seattles'. Who knows. As for me, personally, I'd much rather have Thad than TJax. I'm glad we traded for him instead of a guy who couldn't catch on here twice essentially. I also would rather have had Kolb than TJax, as was the plan. Edit: I really hope he gets to hold for an extra point that gets flubbed and he ends up converting it for two. This thread will take off....I guess I just need something else in my life to fill the giant hole in my heart left by the loss of relevance of the Da'Rick thread. Edited January 30, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
3rdand12 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) he is not. i believe they are carrying only tjax and RW. tis true and his QB rating is like 140and he is now on my list of players i dont ever like again just from this statement. What? he didn't know what he signed on for in Buffalo ? d... Edited January 30, 2014 by 3rdand12
NoSaint Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 tis true and his QB rating is like 140 and he is now on my list of players i dont ever like again just from this statement. What? he didn't know what he signed on for in Buffalo ? d... He was traded to buffalo. So it wasn't really his choice to come sit on the bench. Then likely told he'd have a shot to compete if he came back.
Buftex Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Not thin skinned here. I couldn't care less about what he said. As to your first question above, I'd say that obviously the two different coaching staffs here in Buffalo thought he was worthless. I'd wager that Kolb playing "outstanding" in OTA's could more accurately be described by saying he outplayed TJax and the team did the nice thing by letting him go rather than stringing him along like Chan did (for reasons unknown to us). Maybe he couldn't understand Chan or Doug's system and he gets Seattles'. Who knows. As for me, personally, I'd much rather have Thad than TJax. I'm glad we traded for him instead of a guy who couldn't catch on here twice essentially. I also would rather have had Kolb than TJax, as was the plan. If that is the case (not sure what they would have based this on), why on earth would they have re-signed him to a contract, if one coaching staff was convinced he couldn't play? Not necessarily saying you are wrong, but that would only give more credence to the notion that this was a pretty big screw up on the Bills part...all I can figure, Jackson was Buddy's guy, and Whaley was thinking he couldn't play. I will give you the Kolb over TJax thing...though I would have much preferred Jackson to Kolb. Kolb has never impressed me in the slightest. And, sight unseen, before he ever played a down, you would have rather had the Bills playoff hopes resting in the hands of Thaddeus Lewis than Jackson? Really? Thads' one NFL start in a meaningless "run for the bus" loss the previous year, to Jacksons 34 NFL starts? You must be related, or a big Duke football fan. I really like Lewis, don't get me wrong, but nobody really knew what we had in him, before that first start that he had. The Bills didn't even really know. Edited January 30, 2014 by Buftex
MDH Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I think this (another) one of those cases of Bills fans being a little thin skinned....unless he said something really different than what is posted in the article on the front page, he really didn't say anything slamming the city of Buffalo, or his ex "teammates"...not even in the slightest. If he said he wanted to forget his time in Buffalo, who could blame him? How am I being thin skinned? I didn't take offense to anything he said. I agree with him that it was puzzling why they brought him in. I just questioned his comment, "I've erased last year from my mind. I don't remember anything from the Bills." That's a pretty strong comment and I laughed out loud and thought, "I bet his former teammates appreciate that." Nothing more, nothing less. Btw, why did you put "teammates" in quotes? Edited January 30, 2014 by MDH
machine gun kelly Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I don't blame the guy at all for never getting a chance and have a little bitterness in his heart. What if we had him as our second string this year with Thad as our third and please get rid of the Tool. I imagine we would have won at least two more games. It was only a couple of years ago he beat the Saints in the playoffs. He's a decent second string QB with skills. Certainly better than the debacle at QB this year. He also would have been a much better teacher to EJ than what was there. They didn't even have a QB coach for a rookie, and a first time OC. That was one of Marrone's biggest mistakes. Conversely, I like the recent hires for the new QB coach, Hostetler, and Schwartz.
Stenbar Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I looked at this thread title all day and just opened it up to find out who the hell is T. Jackson!!!! Talk about forgetting...LOL....Who the hell is T. Jackson...
thurst44 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 This is kind of fitting as when I saw the headline, it took me a few beats to remember what Jackson was on our team this year and is on Seattle now. Was he even traveling with the team last year?
Pills -N- Bills Posted January 30, 2014 Author Posted January 30, 2014 I imagine we would have won at least two more games. It was only a couple of years ago he beat the Saints in the playoffs. He's a decent second string QB with skills. Certainly better than the debacle at QB this year. He also would have been a much better teacher to EJ than what was there. They didn't even have a QB coach for a rookie, and a first time OC. That was one of Marrone's biggest mistakes. Good point man well stated.
pimp 2 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Sounded to me like he was taking a few shots at buffalo saying he doesn't even know why he was brought here and That he doesn't even remember the year that he spent here in buffalo. Stating that "it was a good to be in a situation where he is winning games again and that he's glad that situation in buffalo is over with" Sounds like the the winning culture in seatlle and the culture here in buffalo are night and day and that he sure as hell he is glad to not be apart of buffalo"s losing ways. Has the culture here in buffalo really changed? According to T. Jax sounds like we have a long way to go. A bit of a stretch here, pssst- It's not always about taking a shot at Buffalo. Sometimes it like the "battered wife syndrome" with some... Just remove the locale and look at the facts...How dare he try to forget about a time where he floated in obscurity and was NOT given a chance to compete against other mediocre QB's. For an organization that hasn't sniffed the post season or been a contender in years. Fate gave him a reprieve with a familiar situation & it all worked out fine,leave it at that ! He spent more time in Seattle & Minny then he did here anyway. Good luck TJax (even though I'm going with the Bronco's, haha).
benderbender Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 If I was Tarvares, I would be thanking Buffalo for the free money and only having to actually play a couple of times in preseason
LB3 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) If that is the case (not sure what they would have based this on), why on earth would they have re-signed him to a contract, if one coaching staff was convinced he couldn't play? Not necessarily saying you are wrong, but that would only give more credence to the notion that this was a pretty big screw up on the Bills part... And, sight unseen, before he ever played a down, you would have rather had the Bills playoff hopes resting in the hands of Thaddeus Lewis than Jackson? Really? Thads' one NFL start in a meaningless "run for the bus" loss the previous year, to Jacksons 34 NFL starts? You must be related, or a big Duke football fan. I really like Lewis, don't get me wrong, but nobody really knew what we had in him, before that first start that he had. The Bills didn't even really know. To the first part above, only speculation can be made. To me, it's all about the timeline. February 15 - Re-sign TJax March 12 - Release Fitz March 15 - Kolb released by Arizona March 30 - Sign Kolb April 25 - Draft Manuel Shortly after Draft - Sign Tuel June 10 - Release TJax I feel that they liked what they had in the others guys they brought in after him more than they liked him after having worked out with each in ota's. And we had cap room, so I'm not worried about what we paid TJAX going to waste. IMO, calling it a big screw up is a big stretch. To the second part above, I only saw the highlights of his Pittsburgh game. I honestly never heard of him till we traded for him. That being said, I won't lament not having a guy that we had no foreseeable need of until we had a s***storm of injuries in a 2-3 week time frame. I saw a lot of TJax in Minnesota and was concerned with why chan never activated him and so I was OK with taking a flyer on a guy who I knew nothing about instead of the guy who I felt was a good backup who would not get us to the playoffs. Edit: I think my use of the word worthless was overstated. I do think that they felt the other guys had more worth to the team. Edited January 30, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
Buftex Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Fair enough. I guess I am just wondering exactly Jackson said that the OP, and others after, seem to think was some sort of swipe at the Bills.These "we been disrespected" threads never cease to boggle my mind...
Nitro Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Who of us would complain of making 2.5 million dollars to do nothing but watch football? Reasons unknown to the fans, the coaches did not want to play him. Only insiders know and they might leak info to the press soon to get the Bills players side of this. Interesting in that it gives Bills fans something to talk about on a cold Winter's night.
CardinalScotts Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 I'm sure T-Jax's former Bills' teammates appreciate being thought of so fondly. Actually I'm sure they don't give a flying Crap about Tavaris Jackson, like everyone else. As for the draft pick it was a high thought of 7th rounder- move on
LB3 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 These "we been disrespected" threads never cease to boggle my mind... Agreed
The Big Cat Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 you are so full of hyperbole I'm surprised you can fit through the door The move was extremely puzzling at best. Puzzling, yes. But I'm not the hyperbolic poster demanding another persons job over the matter.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Sounded to me like he was taking a few shots at buffalo saying he doesn't even know why he was brought here and That he doesn't even remember the year that he spent here in buffalo. Stating that "it was a good to be in a situation where he is winning games again and that he's glad that situation in buffalo is over with" Sounds like the the winning culture in seatlle and the culture here in buffalo are night and day and that he sure as hell he is glad to not be apart of buffalo"s losing ways. Has the culture here in buffalo really changed? According to T. Jax sounds like we have a long way to go. who's T. Jackson?
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