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and the Saints said they woulda gave up at least a 3rd if they knew he was available :wallbash: .

 

If you and I knew he was available - do you think one of the best gms in the league had no idea?

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Lynch was an idiot in Buffalo, FJax outplayed him. End of story. Good for his success in Seatlle, more power to him. BUT HERE IN Buffalo he was terrible

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I hate most of the player moves this team makes but that one I was fine with. I doubt they could have gotten much more for him and Fred Jackson was (and still is, imho) the better player.

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Lynch was an idiot in Buffalo, FJax outplayed him. End of story. Good for his success in Seatlle, more power to him. BUT HERE IN Buffalo he was terrible

 

Marshawn rushed for over 1,000 yards in his first two seasons with the Bills with almost 1,300 all-purpose yards with Trent & JP as QB, so you have pretty tough standards if that qualifies as "terrible".

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$8,500,000 in Salary Cap relief

 

Often goes unmentioned on a board that advocates using late round and UDFA runners because backs are a dime a dozen.

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4th round pick, IIRC.

 

EDIT: 2011 4th round pick (Chris Hairston) and 2012 5th round pick (Tank Carder).

 

And the safety of every Canadian on Chippewa. You can't put a price on that.

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CJ Spiller ? but oh wait....

 

Which was a waste of a high pick on a position that wasn't a need, and has yet to give a consistent return on such a high pick.

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The Bills have a long history of trading or not signing their RB's & CB's/Secondary (after their rookie contract) that they drafted in the first round. Don't be surprised to see Spiller's rookie contract expire (or him traded).

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If you and I knew he was available - do you think one of the best gms in the league had no idea?

 

The way Pete Carroll explained it was that John Schneider had Buddy on speed dial and called him every single day to ask about Lynch. Buddy refused and laughed him off, day-in and day-out. Then, one day, Buddy simply said, "OK" and a deal was done.

 

I don't have any trouble believing that this account is precisely how it transpired. My question is who changed Buddy's mind?

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The exact same discussion must be going on right now on the Ravens fan blog site over the 4th they gave up for Lee Evans.

Or why they ever, ever, ever, gave up Anquan Boldin.

 

Ever.

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Whitner, Lynch, Winfield, Peters, Pat Williams...an unending list of quality players that we let walk for nothing or almost nothing. Byrd will be on that list soon. We sign FA's that play like puke and have to draft over and over again to replace quality players that we let walk. We are consistently below the cap so this all hangs on the front office.

 

This sums up the Bills, especially the comment about Byrd joining that list. Spiller will be on it as well. This team doesn't have a history, outside of the late 80's and early 90's where it keeps key players and builds a team around them. They should have kept Lynch. He was a stud and he still is a stud. He makes Wilson a better QB. Seattle built an offense around him and added a solid defense to go with it.

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Hindsight is always 20/20. Marshawn had some bright moments as a Bill, but he left the Bills little choice with his off-field troubles. He is twice as good now as he was back then. A better return on the trade would have been nice, but the Bills were over a barrel because they were willing to do whatever it took to move him. That's business.

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Marshawn rushed for over 1,000 yards in his first two seasons with the Bills with almost 1,300 all-purpose yards with Trent & JP as QB, so you have pretty tough standards if that qualifies as "terrible".

 

Marshawn was also rookie of the year.

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Decisions have to be analyzed in the long term and the 2010-12 Bills will go down as a lesson in how not to build a football team.

 

Exactly... B-)

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Hindsight is always 20/20. Marshawn had some bright moments as a Bill, but he left the Bills little choice with his off-field troubles. He is twice as good now as he was back then. A better return on the trade would have been nice, but the Bills were over a barrel because they were willing to do whatever it took to move him. That's business.

 

You don't need hindsight in this case...You really don't...All anyone had to do was hang out with me for the 2010 Draft to know you could see this one coming a mile away...

 

The minute the Bills Drafted Spiller they put themselves over that barrel you speak of...They had plenty of choices where Marshawn was concerned, but the new Coach and GM did not want him...And once they took CJ it was over...Lynch was a goofball and made some dumb mistakes...no doubt about it...But he was not without positives either...He was a heck of a good RB in Buffalo at times...His teammates liked him a lot...I don't think you can find a classier team leader than Fred Jackson...He and Marshawn are still close...Freddie has commented before that they still talk almost daily...How bad could he really be? He was a kid 3000 miles from home...He made some immature mistakes because...well...he was immature...Regardless it was just dumb team building on Nix's part...When you have not one, but two Pro-Bowl caliber backs in-house, you don't Draft another one in the top 10...It was dumb then regardless of what Lynch would go on to do...It's even dumber now because Marshawn is special... B-)

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