boyst Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Wonder if Schwartz will try to bring along Gunther Cunningham to the staff. That would put another former head coach in the mix. Has anyone heard any rumors about that? no but I can start some Mike Pettines daughter tweeting that the Bills will bring in Gunther Cunningham to assist on D.
Alphadawg7 Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Bills officially grant permission to Browns to talk to O'Neil. I just got a text alert about it
Mr. WEO Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Have to admit, I really didn't know who O'Neil was until this week. So they fired the one LB coach (coached Kiko?) because he was so bad, and this other one is like gold? They just can't let him go?
26CornerBlitz Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 @ChrisBrownBills Full story on #Bills allowing Browns to speak with LBs coach O'Neil for Cleveland DC post. http://ow.ly/sZFJw
NoSaint Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) Have to admit, I really didn't know who O'Neil was until this week. So they fired the one LB coach (coached Kiko?) because he was so bad, and this other one is like gold? They just can't let him go? its almost like they are two different people and might have two different skill sets despite coaching positions located close to each other on the field. Edited January 27, 2014 by NoSaint
boyst Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Bills officially grant permission to Browns to talk to O'Neil. I just got a text alert about it thanks for the update. It'll be very interesting to see how long it takes ti extend an offer. If one is even extended at all. I am not sure which would reflect more of a poor front office: letting O'Neil go without an offer or interest. Or offering him an offer after just one interview. Are they ready ti throw their eggs in one basket with Pettine and trust he knows his guy.
Mr. WEO Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 its almost like they are two different people and might have two different skill sets despite coaching positions located close to each other on the field. Maybe. But the one they let go coached a rookie to player of the year status.
CodeMonkey Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 @ChrisBrownBills Full story on #Bills allowing Browns to speak with LBs coach O'Neil for Cleveland DC post. http://ow.ly/sZFJw I had no idea those two went back so far. He was on the Bills only for one season as well. Let the new DC pick his own guys. I don't see this as an issue for the Bills at all, and apparently the Bills agree having granted permission for the interview.
YoloinOhio Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 6m Bills announce they've granted Browns permission to interview Jim O'Neil for their DC job. Word is Pettine has eyed other Bills ass'ts too.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 6m Bills announce they've granted Browns permission to interview Jim O'Neil for their DC job. Word is Pettine has eyed other Bills ass'ts too. I dont care who Pettine has eyes on, as long as the Bills are the ones determining if we want to keep them or not. Cleveland can have our scraps when we decide what they are.
The Big Cat Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I had no idea those two went back so far. He was on the Bills only for one season as well. Let the new DC pick his own guys. I don't see this as an issue for the Bills at all, and apparently the Bills agree having granted permission for the interview. Remember though, Pettine assured the media he wouldn't just be hiring his friends.
YoloinOhio Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 its almost like they are two different people and might have two different skill sets despite coaching positions located close to each other on the field. They are different... Dreisbach came from college. The only NFL coaching experience he has is this year with the Bills. O'Neil has been in the NFL a long time. Remember though, Pettine assured the media he wouldn't just be hiring his friends. He also needs to build a staff like.. yesterday. I think it was an interesting comment he made, considering most coaching staffs in the NFL are made up of guys who know each other/coached together/played together at some point. They don't need to be "friends" necessarily but certainly a known commodity when faced with an uncertain situation can be helpful.
d_wag Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 not surprising to see o'neil going, good sign that gunther cunningham is on board IMO
Alphadawg7 Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 thanks for the update. It'll be very interesting to see how long it takes ti extend an offer. If one is even extended at all. I am not sure which would reflect more of a poor front office: letting O'Neil go without an offer or interest. Or offering him an offer after just one interview. Are they ready ti throw their eggs in one basket with Pettine and trust he knows his guy. Im not that worried about O'Neil. Schwartz likely wants to bring some of his own people in anyway, so I am sure that has something to do with this as well. Not to mention, its just a positional coach, not that hard to fill especially with a new DC probably already having someone in mind. Always good to have continuity, but that pretty much goes out the window when you have to change DC's anyway, so I don't see this as much of an issue as some think. Also keeps B-Lo viewed in a positive light to other future prospective coaches.
YoloinOhio Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Maybe. But the one they let go coached a rookie to player of the year status. I am sure Dreisbach had a positive influence on Kiko. Based on all of the reports that came out over the season, I think a lot of his success this year was due to his sheer instinctiveness, athleticism, attitude, work habits and personal film study. We all saw the gaps in his game as well. Were they there because he was playing MLB when that isn't his best position? Did he wear down as the season went on? We'll see what he looks like next year.
zow2 Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I wonder if this means that Schwartz won't be bringing a lot of his own guys. Schwartz has been around long enough that he must have a network of guys he can bring onboard if need be. I'm sure there are plenty of decent LB coaches out there that he can fill the opening with.
Captain Caveman Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel http://www.sptimes.c...aft_picks.shtml I don't know if this is still valid, considering Herm Edwards was traded 3 years after this. http://www.nytimes.c...html?fta=y&_r=0 With that being said, I think it's fairly standard to allow position coaches permission to interview for promotions, and I think it's the right thing to do in this case. Edited January 27, 2014 by Captain Caveman
Nanker Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Banner's running a ****-show in Cleveland, and they did The Bills no favors in this. I hope Pettine does well there, but I'll leave it up to Schwartz, Maronne and Whaley who else they might allow to go. Its a business.
CodeMonkey Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Remember though, Pettine assured the media he wouldn't just be hiring his friends. I couldn't care less what he does now that he isn't with the Bills.
nucci Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) thanks for the update. It'll be very interesting to see how long it takes ti extend an offer. If one is even extended at all. I am not sure which would reflect more of a poor front office: letting O'Neil go without an offer or interest. Or offering him an offer after just one interview. Are they ready ti throw their eggs in one basket with Pettine and trust he knows his guy. Guessing an offer is coming..Pettine doesn't have to interview him....I'm sure he wants him for the job Edited January 27, 2014 by nucci
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