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The Mass constitution allowed for it. Until Roberts was going to be outed, it wasn't in the US Constitution.

 

The premise of "Romneycare" was there were about 9.8% of the population without coverage that got health care services by just showing up at the ER and stiffing the HC system and duly-paying insured people foot their bill through higher premiums and fees. Romneycare was based on trying to instill some personal responsibility in that segment. About 5% still weren't insured under Romneycare after two years.

 

Obamacare, on the other hand has no such moral argument. The premise is this: Everyone's going to get coverage and we'll make people who can afford to pay for it, otherwise they'll get a subsidy from the taxpayers. We'll increase whatever taxes we need to to pay for the additional coverage, and if the insurers go broke - we'll give them a bailout.

 

So far, 2.2 million people have signed up for coverage under Obamacare. Reportedly over 5 million lost coverage. The "most transparent administration" in the history of the Union will issue a report on just how many tens (if not hundreds) of millions of Americans gained coverage through Obamacare - when it sees fit, or gets a round to it, or well... whatever.

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  On 1/29/2014 at 5:34 PM, Azalin said:

there are significant differences between the two. for one, I don't recall hearing how Romney had to make post-passage changes to it via executive order to keep it from blowing up in his face. secondly (and much more importantly) it was implemented at the STATE LEVEL. he wasn't trying to force ideology on the whole country, and anyone who disagreed with the law enough could always move to another state in order to be free of it.

 

I'm sure there are other here who could easily provide other/better distinctions between Obamacare and Romneycare.

 

It was also bipartisan, and passed in the open. No "we have to pass it to see what's in it," "Republicans can sit in the back seat," reconciliation bull ****.

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  On 1/29/2014 at 3:20 PM, BillsFan-4-Ever said:

Obamacare? Don't you mean Romneycare 2.0?

 

Personally I'd want nothing to do with either.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 1:10 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

This is a drastically incomplete thought.

 

The debt ceiling debate, the Ted Cruz filibuster was a charade. All talk no walk should be the tea party name. Disappointed is an understatement.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 1:21 AM, BigCountryBills said:

 

 

The debt ceiling debate, the Ted Cruz filibuster was a charade. All talk no walk should be the tea party name. Disappointed is an understatement.

Cross-posting, you should stop talking about things you don't understand. It makes you look foolish.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 1:33 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

Cross-posting, you should stop talking about things you don't understand. It makes you look foolish.

 

Fixed.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 1:00 AM, BigCountryBills said:

The Tea Party is a shill. They bow before the same handlers that Obama & Boehner do.

 

Which Tea Party are you referring to?

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  On 1/30/2014 at 2:07 AM, 3rdnlng said:

 

 

Which Tea Party are you referring to?

 

Tea Party Patriots & any Koch Brothers backed hack group. The Tea Party is not our answer. What we need is a real voice. Ted Cruz is a f'ing fake.

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Dems, Repubs, Tea Party; we have no control over any of those entities. The only thing each one of us can do is to find challengers with whom we're relatively comfortable then vow to vote the incumbents out of office. We can B word, moan, and curse the establishment, but remember: We voted them in. Vote, vote against all incumbents.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 2:34 AM, BigCountryBills said:

Tea Party Patriots & any Koch Brothers backed hack group. The Tea Party is not our answer. What we need is a real voice. Ted Cruz is a f'ing fake.

There are hundreds of Tea Parties. You obviously don't get the movement, so I won't give you schit about being a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 2:34 AM, BigCountryBills said:

Tea Party Patriots & any Koch Brothers backed hack group. The Tea Party is not our answer. What we need is a real voice. Ted Cruz is a f'ing fake.

I'm interested in hearing about your individual morality and political philosophy. Any chance you'd be willing to pontificate?

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  On 1/30/2014 at 3:20 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

I'm interested in hearing about your individual morality and political philosophy. Any chance you'd be willing to pontificate?

 

Search his posting history. He's a Tea Partier.

 

Troll. And not even a good one.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 5:09 AM, DC Tom said:

 

 

Search his posting history. He's a Tea Partier.

 

Troll. And not even a good one.

 

To me anyone who even mentions Koch brothers reeks of occupy wall street and all that stupid 1% crap

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  On 1/30/2014 at 2:34 AM, BigCountryBills said:

. The Tea Party is not our answer.

 

Speak for yourself sir.

 

Faux conservative, Koch obsessed rants are a dead giveaway.

 

 

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  On 1/30/2014 at 3:20 AM, TakeYouToTasker said:

I'm interested in hearing about your individual morality and political philosophy. Any chance you'd be willing to pontificate?

my question is

would you actually consider what he says or just continue to consider him as a BHL and ignore what he says regardless?

 

http://www.teaparty911.com/info/candidates.htm

 

Where are the Romneys, Palins, Pauls, Cruz's?

 

or is this the real TEA Party?

 

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/?gclid=CK3vrNSdprwCFaQfwwod3kQArg

 

or this one?

http://www.teaparty.org/

 

or this one?

http://www.theteaparty.net/

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  On 1/30/2014 at 3:42 PM, BillsFan-4-Ever said:

my question is

would you actually consider what he says or just continue to consider him as a BHL and ignore what he says regardless?

What kind of idiot question is this? I asked him what his individual morality and political philosophy is. What am I going to do? Argue with him and tell him that his philosophy is not his philosophy? Jesus... do you have to focus on being dumb to come up with **** like that?

 

 

 

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http://www.teaparty9.../candidates.htm

 

Where are the Romneys, Palins, Pauls, Cruz's?

 

or is this the real TEA Party?

 

http://www.teapartyp...CFaQfwwod3kQArg

 

or this one?

http://www.teaparty.org/

 

or this one?

http://www.theteaparty.net/

You've answered your own question, and you don't even realize it.

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  On 1/30/2014 at 3:47 PM, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

What kind of idiot question is this? I asked him what his individual morality and political philosophy is. What am I going to do? Argue with him and tell him that his philosophy is not his philosophy? Jesus... do you have to focus on being dumb to come up with **** like that?

 

 

 

 

You've answered your own question, and you don't even realize it.

 

He hasn't figured out that there is no central control to the tea party but its a grass roots movement of like minded citizens angry at the direction of the country and that our representatives care more about their careers than doing the job they were elected to do. We are taxed enough already. We dont need someone to tell us what to do or think we have realized these conclusions von our own.

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