Time For A Tea Party Thread

[TakeYouToTasker]

So it doesn't matter if people have less? It improves their culture. That's really your point of view. It will actually make them have more money later...ok See, that's why I see this anti-government, libertarainism or whatever you call it as pie in the sky dreamy

While some will suffer more in the very immediate short term, in the long term they will become more self sufficient, and learn to create wealth for themselves. The real benefit, however, is to society over the long term, as dependence, poor decision making, and bad work ethic, and victim mentality are systemically discouraged, leading to greater wealth creation, and fewer poor over time.

Edited January 24, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker

[IDBillzFan]

So it doesn't matter if people have less? It improves their culture. That's really your point of view. It will actually make them have more money later...ok See, that's why I see this anti-government, libertarainism or whatever you call it as pie in the sky dreamy

 

Face it: you find it dreamy because you're a product of the 'participation trophy' culture. You're too stupid and lazy to earn anything on your own, so you need people in power to shuffle the deck so you can continue to be stupid and lazy...but with a few extra schneckles in your purse so you can download the lastest Candy Crush app.

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

 

 

Face it: you find it dreamy because you're a product of the 'participation trophy' culture. You're too stupid and lazy to earn anything on your own, so you need people in power to shuffle the deck so you can continue to be stupid and lazy...but with a few extra schneckles in your purse so you can download the lastest Candy Crush app.

 

Like I Said earlier its scary and frightening for weak minded people to have to be responsible for themselves and not expect the government to nanny them and decide everything and provide from cradle to grave

[Dante]

Face it: you find it dreamy because you're a product of the 'participation trophy' culture. You're too stupid and lazy to earn anything on your own, so you need people in power to shuffle the deck so you can continue to be stupid and lazy...but with a few extra schneckles in your purse so you can download the lastest Candy Crush app.

You have the knack (talent?) of hitting the bulls eye with some pretty good writing sprinkled with the correct amount of venom. Start your own podcast why don't you! Edited January 24, 2014 by Dante

[IDBillzFan]

Start your own podcast why don't you!

 

Because I own a small business and don't have time for an audit.

[Dante]

 

 

Because I own a small business and don't have time for an audit.

And be real careful if you donate money to a conservative campaign. If you don't have time to get audited I'm guessing you won't have it for any kind of jail time.

 

[IDBillzFan]

And be real careful if you donate money to a conservative campaign. If you don't have time to get audited I'm guessing you won't have it for any kind of jail time.

 

We had plans to go see Gary Sinise and the Lt. Dan Band because they do such great work for the troops, but once I heard the WH was going after Sinise, I figure they'll pretty much go after anyone.

[Dante]

Did you read about the Desousa thing? It's getting real scary out there

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/24/obama-administration-indicts-conservative-filmmaker-critical-of-obama/

Edited January 25, 2014 by Dante

[gumby]

What about reducing the size of government will make the Tea Partiers lives better?? How will they benefit from smaller government?

 

You complain about income inequality and then you post this.

[Tiberius]

Ut-oh! Tea Party won't like this!

 

 

"Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) is expected to release a brief outline of immigration principles to his caucus as soon as its annual retreat next week. The goals would include strengthening border security and creating new visas for foreign workers, while providing a path toward legalizing the status of the nation’s 11 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants, according to people briefed on the deliberations."

 

Amnesty!!!

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-house-republicans-new-momentum-on-immigration-reform/2014/01/24/1c48e25e-8509-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html

 

 

 

You complain about income inequality and then you post this.

 

Yes, so?

[keepthefaith]

I don't see anything here that will fundamentally make you more free at all, and might in fact make you less free, not to mention the fact that balancing the budget is one of the single stupidest ideas ever. Imagine a person being denied credit? That's a lack of freedom you want to inflict on our government yet you say you want us to be more independent? You just sound angry but you are not sure exactly what to be angry about so you scream you have no freedom.

 

 

 

 

How much debt is too much? Is there a number? If we never retire the debt (and it's a far-fetched idea that we ever will) how much is too much to spend on debt service every year? If the cost to service our debt increases significantly in relation to the economy, how will we pay for that? Will we cut other spending? What will we cut? If not will we raise taxes? How much more in taxes are you willing to pay so that we can pay our bills? If we raise taxes will that slow economic growth? If we don't pay our bills will we simply borrow more? Won't more borrowing increase the cost to service the debt? Where does this end?

 

This is a large plank in the Tea Party platform, but I look forward to the answers to these questions.

Edited January 25, 2014 by keepthefaith

[B-Man]

As we approach the 5th anniversary of the start of the Tea Party movement.

 

For fun, we can explore the devolution of insults about citizen activists over the years.

 

First, they were peppered with a wide barrage: “Astro-turf”, “members of a mob“, “clansmen“, “un-American”, “political terrorists“, “Nazis“, and “evil-mongers“.

 

Then, they tried with their biggest bombshell: “Racists”.

 

Because all of these have failed to silence us, they have one last card to play. Now, we are simply crazy.

A Psychologist Diagnoses the Tea Party-and other extremists threatening our world. In “The Polarized Mind: Why It’s Killing Us and What We Can Do about It,” Kirk J. Schneider Ph.D., calls for a new and deeper psychological understanding of our greatest political and social conflicts and those who drive them.

 

 

Fortunately, those who planned to be involved in the grassroots movement didn’t count on being praised for our efforts by progressive academics or the liberal media. However, it is fascinating the lengths that our opponents have gone over the years to demean our desire for smaller government, sensible budgeting, and adherence to the US Constitution.

 

More importantly, our long-term approach may actually be paying dividends: Tea Party expands influence even in Democratic-leaning districts.

Despite national polls showing dwindling voter support for the Tea Party, House Republicans are embracing the movement’s issues tighter than ever, setting up a potential clash with voters in districts that lean Democratic, according to a new study of key House votes.

 

On average, said the study provided in advance to Secrets,

House Republicans in Democratic-leaning districts or those that voted for President Obama over Republican Mitt Romney in 2012 sided with the Tea Party about 81 percent of the time on key votes like defunding Obamacare, blocking an increase of the debt limit and supporting a government shutdown.

 

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Edited January 26, 2014 by B-Man

[keepthefaith]

More and more a flat tax makes sense. Charge people equally for the government that we have. Charge them what it really cost to fund SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Then, once everyone has the same skin in the game, we'll see who gets elected.

 

Pipe dream, I know.

[BillsFan-4-Ever]

Let's see which little B word here will be the first to call them "tea baggers".

 

 

Am I too late?

 

to many the the "baggers" hijacked the movement and twisted it into their own agenda

 

think of it in similar terms to the carpetbaggers.

 

The carpetbaggers term used as a derogatory term, suggesting opportunism and exploitation by the "outsiders". (NON TEA founders)

 

Carpetbaggers together with Republicans, they are said to have politically manipulated and controlled former Confederate states for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

source of comparative meaning

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Carpetbagger

 

One could say that the Tea baggers together with Republicans, had politically manipulated and controlled the RED states and voting districts for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

Edited January 27, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever

[keepthefaith]

Am I too late?

 

to many the the "baggers" hijacked the movement and twisted it into their own agenda

 

think of it in similar terms to the carpetbaggers.

 

The carpetbaggers term used as a derogatory term, suggesting opportunism and exploitation by the "outsiders". (NON TEA founders)

 

Carpetbaggers together with Republicans, they are said to have politically manipulated and controlled former Confederate states for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

source of comparative meaning

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Carpetbagger

 

One could say that the Tea baggers together with Republicans, had politically manipulated and controlled the RED states and voting districts for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

 

You're not only late, you're not even in the correct location. Please go back and read what you wrote here and then explain it to the rest of us.

[B-Large]

Income inequality is a stupid term

[3rdnlng]

Am I too late?

 

to many the the "baggers" hijacked the movement and twisted it into their own agenda

 

think of it in similar terms to the carpetbaggers.

 

The carpetbaggers term used as a derogatory term, suggesting opportunism and exploitation by the "outsiders". (NON TEA founders)

 

Carpetbaggers together with Republicans, they are said to have politically manipulated and controlled former Confederate states for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

source of comparative meaning

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Carpetbagger

 

One could say that the Tea baggers together with Republicans, had politically manipulated and controlled the RED states and voting districts for varying periods for their own financial and power gains.

 

I'll respond to you in a meaningful way when you can read an article, understand that article, post a link in a new thread and title it in a manner that reflects the article. Your "brain dead" thread was just that.

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

Not just the size, also the scope.

 

Individuals will benefit by having their choices increased, with fewer decisions being made for them by the government, and having a larger amount of their earned income available to them to spend, save, or invest.

 

Society in general will benefit, in the long term, by having fewer bad choices and poor behaviors incentivized.

 

There isn't a 1929 do over. It just doesn't work. The last thing in the world people need is more choice than they have now. We have the most choices we ever had in our society. We tried what you said and the bottom fell out when our country moved from an agrarian to consumer society.

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

 

There isn't a 1929 do over. It just doesn't work. The last thing in the world people need is more choice than they have now. We have the most choices we ever had in our society. We tried what you said and the bottom fell out when our country moved from an agrarian to consumer society.

The bottom never fell out. The entire world was swept by a wave of authoritarian bent, and that bent, and the social engineering experiment which defined it, led to the Great Depression.

 

It wasn't an organic societal thing, it was powerful men exerting their force on the world to consolidate more power.

[DC Tom]

There isn't a 1929 do over. It just doesn't work. The last thing in the world people need is more choice than they have now. We have the most choices we ever had in our society. We tried what you said and the bottom fell out when our country moved from an agrarian to consumer society.

 

Wow. This "people can't handle more choices" thinking is EXACTLY the thinking in the Weimar Republic that led to the NSDAP taking power.