QCity Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 @MaryKayCabot reporting that the interview with Quinn for HC is about to start any minute now...
CodeMonkey Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I'd tell all of them that no one is eligible to leave until we have a new DC and they decide who they want on their staff. Gotta stop the bleeding and get in control of our own situation immediately. For lateral moves I completely agree. But I wouldn't want to block a huge promotion like that. If they do, I'd expect O'Neil to return the favor in kind in the future. Karma's a B word. Edited January 23, 2014 by CodeMonkey
KD in CA Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Good. The Bills need a new defensive scheme anyway. They stuck with the current one for almost a year.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Its tragic that the Bills find a quality talent and he is gone after one year, and yet typical. Can you cite the last "typical" example of a Bills coach leaving to be a head coach after one year? PTR
DrDawkinstein Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 For lateral moves I completely agree. But I wouldn't want to block a huge promotion like that. If they do, I'd expect O'Neil to not return the favor in kind later. I dont like doing it, it doesnt make me feel good, but they have to do what's best for the Bills right now. If we've learned anything from this, it's that nothing in the NFL is guaranteed for more than a year (and you're lucky if you get that). I dunno. This just sucks. I feel sorry for the players 3 DC's in as many years let's hope there isn't a drastic change in the philosophy or scheme. Bet they feel like they can never get ahead of the ball because every time they start to grasp on to the concept of the defense which they are being taught everything gets turned upside down again. And this will be our 5th in 6 years. Bills should just tag Byrd now. No way he wants to come back to this.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Oh well the rebuilding will rebuild again. Great move for Pettine but I think a dumb move on his part Cleveland is a train wreck well so are the bills
CodeMonkey Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I dont like doing it, it doesnt make me feel good, but they have to do what's best for the Bills right now. If we've learned anything from this, it's that nothing in the NFL is guaranteed for more than a year (and you're lucky if you get that). I dunno. This just sucks. That's where we agree to disagree. Screwing over one of the subordinate coaches does not exactly make for things being all unicorns and rainbows within the coaching ranks. And we are talking about a LB coach. Is that a difficult position to fill? Were I Marrone I don't think I'd want to go into my potentially make or break season that way. That's just me. And this will be our 5th in 6 years. Bills should just tag Byrd now. No way he wants to come back to this. Maybe Pettine will get the Browns to pony up for Byrd. Plenty of cap space there too right Edited January 23, 2014 by CodeMonkey
NoSaint Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I dont like doing it, it doesnt make me feel good, but they have to do what's best for the Bills right now. If we've learned anything from this, it's that nothing in the NFL is guaranteed for more than a year (and you're lucky if you get that). I dunno. This just sucks. And this will be our 5th in 6 years. Bills should just tag Byrd now. No way he wants to come back to this. and didnt edwards overhaul his awful scheme to a different awful scheme in our lone repeat?
DrDawkinstein Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 That's where we agree to disagree. Screwing over one of the subordinate coaches does not exactly make for things being all unicorns and rainbows within the coaching ranks. And we are talking about a LB coach. Is that a difficult position to fill? Were I Marrone I don't think I'd want to go into my potentially make or break season that way. That's just me. I disagree on the term "screwing over". There is no screwing over, it is all business. Which is exactly why Pettine gets to leave with no hard feelings. I dont like the potential of the internal strife it may cause either, but we have to control our own house. Maybe they allow them to go in the near future, but as of tonight the exit door out of Buffalo is closed. and didnt edwards overhaul his awful scheme to a different awful scheme in our lone repeat? Ah-ha! Yes he did! I knew I was forgetting something in there. 5 DCs and 6 schemes in 6 years. Go Bills!
CodeMonkey Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I disagree on the term "screwing over". There is no screwing over, it is all business. Which is exactly why Pettine gets to leave with no hard feelings. So if you were offered a job at a different company which was a significant promotion with an equally significant raise in pay, and your current company had the legal right to block it and did so, you would not feel screwed over? Your co-workers would also not see it as you being screwed over? I know I sure would. I understand about stopping the bleeding. But personally I would draw the line at this. And of course this is all hypothetical as of now anyway Edited January 23, 2014 by CodeMonkey
GA BILLS FAN Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Can you cite the last "typical" example of a Bills coach leaving to be a head coach after one year? PTR Not to defend "Fear of Losing" -- but, I think the comment was intended as, "just the Bills luck, something good happens (we hire Pettine)and next thing you know something bad follows (we lose him after a year)" -- i.e. one step forward -- one step back
DrDawkinstein Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) So if you were offered a job at a different company which was a significant promotion with an equally significant raise in pay, and your current company had the legal right to block it and did so, you would not feel screwed over? Your co-workers would also not see it as you being screwed over? I know I sure would. My job and industry (and Im guessing your job and industry) is nothing like the world of coaching. If I took the job knowing that they could stop me from leaving for any position except one particular position (HC) then I couldnt be that mad because it's exactly what I signed up for. I might feel frustrated or pissed, but it is what it is, and it's in my contract. Edit: I might have felt more inclined to let guys go right away had it not been dragged out like it was. And again, they may get their chance to go if our new guy doesnt want them. Heck, maybe the Bills are looking at making ONeil the DC, for all we know. Point is, we have to make moves before any more moves are made for us. Edited January 23, 2014 by DrDareustein
Bills Fan in Beantown Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You would think that the talent we have on defense might attract a decent hire for the position. Let's see what they do.
NoSaint Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You would think that the talent we have on defense might attract a decent hire for the position. Let's see what they do. the tricky part is, just as we have people saying do not let our coaches go to the browns... well... i think you know where im going. we either have one of our guys, someone unemployed, or we are asking permission. thats not to say there are no good options though.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 @AdamSchefter Browns submitted request to Buffalo to interview Bills LB coach Jim O’Neil for Cleveland’s DC. O’Neil and Pettine worked together with Jets.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Im going to soften my stance and say 1 assistant can have permission. And that would be Crossman.
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Good riddance to bad rubbish. Onwards and upwards!
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 @MaryKayCabot reporting that the interview with Quinn for HC is about to start any minute now... ????
NoSaint Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 17m #browns Pettine said ideally he'd like to have a former HC somewhere on his staff for the expertise.
1B4IDie Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 My job and industry (and Im guessing your job and industry) is nothing like the world of coaching. If I took the job knowing that they could stop me from leaving for any position except one particular position (HC) then I couldnt be that mad because it's exactly what I signed up for. I might feel frustrated or pissed, but it is what it is, and it's in my contract. Edit: I might have felt more inclined to let guys go right away had it not been dragged out like it was. And again, they may get their chance to go if our new guy doesnt want them. Heck, maybe the Bills are looking at making ONeil the DC, for all we know. Point is, we have to make moves before any more moves are made for us. Agreed Plus Morrone needs to sell them on why they should want to stay.
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