NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I guess we will be value shopping once again when free agency starts in March. I cant say I disagree with this approach. Especially this off-season where it seems like there isn't any one player that is worth over paying. High paid fa's usually tend to flop or not live up to high expectations. What we need to do is value our own players and resign Byrd and start working on extensions for Dareus, A Will and Spiller. This team has alot of talent. We have 4 pro bowlers and at least another 3 players that played at a pro bowl level, Cordy, Kiko and Leodis to name a few. I took the liberty of trying to put together a list of players that I think are players of value that we could go after.. QB- Schaub, Vick, McCown RB- Toby Gerhardt, R Jennings, J Starks Wr- K Britt, D Alexander, B Lafell TE- B Pettigrew, J Finley, B Myers, D Dickson & Garrett Graham OT- A Howard, E Winston, A Collins OG- J Asomoah, G Schwartz, R Incognito C- R Orhnberger, R Wendell DE- C Wooten, R Ayers DT- Mt Cody, T McDaniel, C Thomas LB's- P Riley, B Spikes, D Bishop, A Jordan, O Schofield Cb, S - T Thurmand lll, C Graham, J Leonard, R Doughty, Stevie Brown Some of these players are coming off major injuries J Finley, Stevie Brown some of them character concerns R Incognito and K Britt. Im not saying we will pursue all these players but dont be surprised to see some rolling into Tempo with Russ & Crew Players I love from this list Perry Riley, Akeem Jordan, Stevie Brown. Garrett Graham, Austin Howard, J Asomoah & James Starks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 It just got a little more dusty. Pettine has been offered Browns head coaching job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Let's get the home grown guys Graham and Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What ever happened to the Buddy Nix philosophy in which he stated the money was for keeping the talent you develop in-house? Now the money is only for American Pickers style bargain hunting? Well, let's hope they find some real good players in the collapsed barn after the dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It just got a little more dusty. Pettine has been offered Browns head coaching job Sarcasm or "legit" rumor? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That dust has been cloudy for 14 years and counting... The passive approach is bound to work at some point. Be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That's great. I'm going to take a "dust settles" and "value" approach to rooting for the team next season. I'll refrain from purchasing season tickets or the NFL Sunday Ticket until the "dust settles" and I have a clearer picture of whether the Bills will actually be competitive for a change. And I'll decide to purchase individual game tickets based upon the "value" that they present as they get closer. I mean, if the Bills aren't going to act aggressively to plug roster holes, why should I as a fan act aggressively to lend my support? Methinks that Brandon is going to have a particularly hard time selling tickets this year, especially after Pettine leaves and they draft a right tackle in Round 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Lol, put a Bills Jersey on him it would be perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Did the Bills even sign any other free agents last year besides Lawson and Kolb? Edited January 22, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Man...see, I would actually take a flier on Kenny Britt. I know the guy is kind of a head case but you sign him to a one year or two year deal? That's worth it in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It's better than Nix saying he'd be asleep when UFA began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Man...see, I would actually take a flier on Kenny Britt. I know the guy is kind of a head case but you sign him to a one year or two year deal? That's worth it in my books. I wouldn't mind this either kid is 25yrs old very young. Maybe this is the change he needs to get his career on track. Another player I like is Akeem Jordan mlb from KC. This kid is a thumper would be a good compliment to Kiko in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Did the Bills even sign any other free agents last year besides Lawson and Kolb? Nickell Robey was undrafted and therefore a FA signing. Alan Branch was a good get also. Edited January 22, 2014 by BillnutinHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 With this value meal strategy we need to start building like the Bengals and Pats. Start bringing in some character risks for cheap. Aqib Talib, Blount, Dennerd, Pac man Jones, Carlos Dunlop. We need to take these types of risks in the draft and in free agency. Im not saying that we should load our team up with thugs. Just a sprinkle will be fine. A player that will be available soon once the NFL reinstates him is Justin Blackmon I would trade a 4th round pk for a talent like him. We should do this before the Pats do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'd be interested in knowing where this "dust settles" idea came from? All I read was this from Whaley: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/bills-gm-begins-first-full-offseason-as-the-man-20140121?two-bills-drive “Right before we left, we went over the free-agent possibilities out there,” he said. “We’ve narrowed it down to some key people we may be interested in. I’ll look at them, Monos will look at them. The pro department will look at them and cross-check along with the coaches.” “We’re going to set the pros’ board exactly how we do the colleges,” Whaley said. “We’ll have free-agency meetings just like we have draft meetings, and stack a board.” Whaley said the Bills should have enough salary cap space to do “what we need to do to get better.” Whaley said he has a good grasp of the salary cap, which is managed by Jim Overdorf, Bills senior vice president of football operations. Overdorf handles contract negotiations, but Whaley said he has relationships with the agents with whom the Bills deal. “I know what I need to know,” Whaley said regarding the cap, “and anything that’s really intricate, that’s when we lean on J.O. What we like to do is he gives us a spreadsheet of where we are cap-wise, what we can spend, what everybody’s cap number is, potential accelerations, potential escalators. So you’ve got to be cognizant of all that information, because you have to put value on our free agents and free agents we may be looking to sign.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'd be interested in knowing where this "dust settles" idea came from? All I read was this from Whaley: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/bills-gm-begins-first-full-offseason-as-the-man-20140121?two-bills-drive “Right before we left, we went over the free-agent possibilities out there,” he said. “We’ve narrowed it down to some key people we may be interested in. I’ll look at them, Monos will look at them. The pro department will look at them and cross-check along with the coaches.” “We’re going to set the pros’ board exactly how we do the colleges,” Whaley said. “We’ll have free-agency meetings just like we have draft meetings, and stack a board.” Whaley said the Bills should have enough salary cap space to do “what we need to do to get better.” Whaley said he has a good grasp of the salary cap, which is managed by Jim Overdorf, Bills senior vice president of football operations. Overdorf handles contract negotiations, but Whaley said he has relationships with the agents with whom the Bills deal. “I know what I need to know,” Whaley said regarding the cap, “and anything that’s really intricate, that’s when we lean on J.O. What we like to do is he gives us a spreadsheet of where we are cap-wise, what we can spend, what everybody’s cap number is, potential accelerations, potential escalators. So you’ve got to be cognizant of all that information, because you have to put value on our free agents and free agents we may be looking to sign.” Listen to his interview on the Bills app, He talks bout dust settle players. Says not looking to make splashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'd be interested in knowing where this "dust settles" idea came from? All I read was this from Whaley: http://www.buffalone...two-bills-drive “Right before we left, we went over the free-agent possibilities out there,” he said. “We’ve narrowed it down to some key people we may be interested in. I’ll look at them, Monos will look at them. The pro department will look at them and cross-check along with the coaches.” “We’re going to set the pros’ board exactly how we do the colleges,” Whaley said. “We’ll have free-agency meetings just like we have draft meetings, and stack a board.” Whaley said the Bills should have enough salary cap space to do “what we need to do to get better.” Whaley said he has a good grasp of the salary cap, which is managed by Jim Overdorf, Bills senior vice president of football operations. Overdorf handles contract negotiations, but Whaley said he has relationships with the agents with whom the Bills deal. “I know what I need to know,” Whaley said regarding the cap, “and anything that’s really intricate, that’s when we lean on J.O. What we like to do is he gives us a spreadsheet of where we are cap-wise, what we can spend, what everybody’s cap number is, potential accelerations, potential escalators. So you’ve got to be cognizant of all that information, because you have to put value on our free agents and free agents we may be looking to sign.” http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2014/01/21/bills-again-have-value-plan-for-free-agency/ “I think we’re going to stay that course, value picks, guys that can come in and contribute and we get a real good return on our investment,” said Whaley. “We just set it up before we came down here. We set up the unrestricted free agents by position. What we’ll do is we have certain positions that we think will be interesting to us and we’ll pull out certain guys that we think we’ll be able to look at and talk to or try to get and when we get back we’ll give it to the coaches and have a free agent board set up just like a draft board by position and regardless of position. “We call them dust settle guys. After all the dust settles, but we can target guys now. We’ll see when the dust settles, but we can also go to them on day one and say this is what we’re willing to offer, but they’re not going to be big splash guys.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Nickell Robey was undrafted and therefore a FA signing. Alan Branch was a good get also. I forgot about Branch but figured I was missing one I don't put undrafted free agents in same category as free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Listen to his interview on the Bills app, He talks bout dust settle players. Says not looking to make splashes. http://blogs.buffalo...or-free-agency/ “I think we’re going to stay that course, value picks, guys that can come in and contribute and we get a real good return on our investment,” said Whaley. “We just set it up before we came down here. We set up the unrestricted free agents by position. What we’ll do is we have certain positions that we think will be interesting to us and we’ll pull out certain guys that we think we’ll be able to look at and talk to or try to get and when we get back we’ll give it to the coaches and have a free agent board set up just like a draft board by position and regardless of position. “We call them dust settle guys. After all the dust settles, but we can target guys now. We’ll see when the dust settles, but we can also go to them on day one and say this is what we’re willing to offer, but they’re not going to be big splash guys.” Thanks for the links...I take that to mean they won't go throwing crazy money around, but that if there's a guy they want, they won't wait to go after him or pay more than is responsible to get him. I'm okay with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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