Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? Hey it's not BillsFanNC who said they cheated to win first, that was Roger Goodell. "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell wrote in a letter to the Patriots explaining his disciplinary action. Read more: http://www.post-gaze...6#ixzz2qzAcgApR Edited January 21, 2014 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch
dave mcbride Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? They all cheated. Jimmy Johnson even fessed up to it after mangini spilled the beans. You think al davis or bill walsh or parcells or shanahan never pulled an equivalent move? If so, there's a bridge i'd love to sell you in brooklyn. There's a reason no one in the coaching fraternity criticizes belichik. Edited January 21, 2014 by dave mcbride
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 The Pats* are just like Barry Bonds' records*. There is always that doubt. The doubt will always be there. Are they both great? Sure. Do they need to be recognized as great? Sure. Tainted.
Playoffs? Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I cant stand the Pats, obviously. But you have to respect them and acknowledge that Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks, ever. The Pats were fortunate to get him and BB, while the Bills got.... No one.... For over a decade.
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 They all cheated. Jimmy Johnson even fessed up to it after mangini spilled the beans. You think al davis or bill walsh or parcells or shanahan never pulled an equivalent move? If so, there's a bridge i'd love to sell you in brooklyn. There's a reason no one in the coaching fraternity criticizes belichik. Do you have a link for this? One story I'm familiar with was in the 1970s the Cowboys practiced at a practice field next to a 6 or 7 story hotel. Whenever the Cowboys were playing the Redskins, they would rent out every room on the side facing the practice field for the whole week. George Allen was known to send guys there to film practice. I wonder if Marv was ever on this detail? But are we sure that was against the rules back then, or when Madden was coach? Not sure.
BadDad Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 No one is happier to see Tom Brady shed tears than I am. But he is still one of the best NFL QBs ever. He could lose every game till he retires and he would still be one of the best. Sorry. Deal with it. PTR Hate to say it, but you're right. I intensely dislike him and I'm certain that the devil is now beginning to collect on his debt, but he will go down as one of the all time greats.
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 For those of you think NEsuccess is tainted: Opinions of the 4 Steelers Super Bowls featuring some of the great steroids abusers of all time. This cheating traces back to the 1960's when San Diego was the first to pound steroids and cruise to an easy victory.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 For those of you think NEsuccess is tainted: Opinions of the 4 Steelers Super Bowls featuring some of the great steroids abusers of all time. This cheating traces back to the 1960's when San Diego was the first to pound steroids and cruise to an easy victory. steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned?
dhg Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 To bad it doesn't show Peyton knocking Brady out. Who is the ref Face? Belichick
Keukasmallies Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 That's always been my standard for dudes. Ask the scorned women they've dated for their opinion. Are you !@#$ing serious? Not my standard for some things, but definitely is my standard for class act gentlemen.
Beerball Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 http://forums.denver...641#post4916641 This is priceless! That's pretty good, but I'd prefer to see brady get knocked out.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Pure jealousy that Brady has made the Pats great for over a decade. I'm sure Pats fans get so sad when you guys make fun of Brady. Pats* fans are obnoxious #@!holes that I don't give two #!@#! about. They cheated to do what they did, flat out. I would never be jealous of a cheater.
LB3 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned? Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something. It is if you can't cheat anymore to win it.
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned? Some forms of cheating are okay while others are not? Brilliant logic.
RyanC883 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 i watched that thing like 8 times through waiting for manning to just knock him out....my bad. hey barbarian, your signature says FA:RT....he he he...fart. same here. Very disappointing that it never happens.
Rob's House Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It always turns my stomach when Bills fans come out of the woodwork to take a mouthful of Tom Brady. It's like the cuckold who is dead set on making sure everyone recognize the truth and reality that the guy his wife's !@#$ing is superior to himself in so many ways.
Heels20X6 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? Incorrect. Even after ratting out Ol' Billy B Absentee (from the Super Bowl), Mangini still got the starting HC position in Cleveland and still works in the NFL as an offensive coordinatoor/QBs coach for the 49ers. He's no longer an HC because he's simply not good at it. Two stints showed that to be the case. Goes to show you that if their was an "unwritten rule" that you don't speak about cheating, no one cared that he broke it against Belichek.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something. Again, I believe some may have misunderstood me. let me reiterate - They have done a unbelievable job year after year with practically nothing and succeeded (by tromping on the AFCE bottom feeders). The 6 easy wins from the division has helped them too. YET in the last 8 to 9 years they fell short. Have they won a SB since SpyGate? In the last 8 to 9 years they fallen short because they don't have to complete team. Curious Do you put the Steelers in the same category as they have been (sometimes) deep in the playoffs for most of the last decade? How about the Raves? The Saints?, Packers?.
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It always turns my stomach when Bills fans come out of the woodwork to take a mouthful of Tom Brady. It's like the cuckold who is dead set on making sure everyone recognize the truth and reality that the guy his wife's !@#$ing is superior to himself in so many ways. Someone had a bad personal experience.
Recommended Posts