meazza Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 if you can simply choose another team to root for, then you weren't much of a fan in the first place. Exactly. I could never support another team. I could support a club for selfish reasons (i.e. supporting the forehead to to beat the Patsies today) but when my club wins I have a smile on my face that can never be replaced (except by a good hummer)
sodbuster Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 if you can simply choose another team to root for, then you weren't much of a fan in the first place. He knows that. OP wrote that novel of a post to justify his decision, not to others, but to himself.
Nick the Greek Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Take yer awesome posting skills over to a Steelers board. CYA!
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 if you can simply choose another team to root for, then you weren't much of a fan in the first place. Exactly right. He knows that. OP wrote that novel of a post to justify his decision, not to others, but to himself. Which again is why any poster who starts a LAMP thread about how they are no longer a Bills fan should be immediately banned from the board IMO.
OCinBuffalo Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Bah. What is this doing here? Throwing him to the dogs? It's not like he's going to stick around and defend any of this, so what is the point? "The dogs" like meat, and we aren't going to get any from this. I mean....at least if he said something about Sarah Palin, then I could see it. Well, we could screw around with some of the comments made thus far, if that's what moving this here is, fine: Yeah, let's whine about Amherst! Let's kill the off all the economic growth we find, everywhere we find it, and never comprehend the relationship between lowering taxes and growth! Because? We are massive idiots! Let's keep taxes as high as we can in NYS, and tell anybody that wants to cut them: that they are stealing from the public sector unions! Let's keep benefits as high as we can...so that we import the poor from the rest of the country, but never realize that's why we keep seeing higher demand for state services, every year, which means we need bigger budgets and more public sector workers, to deliver these services! Which means? We ALWAYS need to keep taxes high! You unmitigated, circular reasoning, Sheldon Silver-loving morons! :wallbash: New York State's #1 import? The poor. The sick. The elderly....none of whom have ever "paid their fair share" in NYS taxes. This is the "race to the bottom": of idiocy. Who can be the biggest idiot, and not realize that we are being played as suckers by the rest of the country? That's right: NY people, being played as suckers, by people from Alabama. Can you even imagine that? It's real: I just met them. They are here because? Services are better here. They have no intention of paying into the system. The wife's condition says: they never will. But, now? They are NYS's problem, and not Alabama's Why? Unmitigated morons, who think Amherst, and not they themselves, are the problem. ...but, that's not why this is here, and, I don't feel right about going after somebody who posted in a thread they thought was on the football board. That's like making a play, and letting your momentum carry you into wiping out the training staff, on purpose/just for the hell of it. I only want to play PPP against posters who've stepped onto the field. Edited January 20, 2014 by OCinBuffalo
4merper4mer Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 100% agree. Why pick one with an aging QB when you have P. Manning JR. in Andrew Luck. Any why pick a team on its way down. If you wanted an aging QB, go with Denver or NE. The Stillers seem a stupid pick unless you live in Stiller country. 7 playoff turnovers called and said the Steelers were a better choice than Ollie's little boy. Still, why is this on the political board and why does anyone care about someone stopping being a Bills fan, much less which team he picked?
Just Jack Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Why in the world did moderators move this to PPP? How did this end up on PPP of all places? Why is this thread in PPP? Still, why is this on the political board ... I wasn't the one who moved it, but it was easy enough to figure out why if you read the entire post, particularly this part.... 1) the first common denominator is "Buffalo". The area has been in consistent economic decline since the mid sixties. There was a brief uptick in the mid to late 80's and then freefall. NFL teams aren't financially viable in that type of environment and free agents don't want to come there or want more money than their fair market value to do so. Most big cities in economic decline have turned it around... Pittsburg, St. Louis, Cincy, Cleveland, Baltimore were once in similar decline as Buffalo but found their way back. Buffalo is different. Turning Buffalo around would almost be akin to turning water into wine because it has to contend with Albany... the NYS political dysfunction and corruption machine. There are 19 million New Yorkers. 11 million of them live below the northern boundaries of Rockland and Putnam counties, roughly 400 miles from Buffalo. The other 8 million New Yorkers living north and west of that don't matter to the politicos and they don't give a ****. As long as they got NYS taxpayer money in their pocket, that's a cash cow for them. Sure, they might throw a bone or two or some candy to upstate once and a while, but absolutely no significant or long term measure to turn things around is ever going to happen. And, wait until the casino money starts rolling in if you don't think the corruption can get any worse. The NYS population is aging, retirees gradually moving out of upstate because they can't afford to live there, and the younger ones are moving out of state as well because there aren't any jobs... and loads of you transplanted WNYers on this board know exactly what I'm talking about. So, will the team move? Eventually, I believe it will. But, within the next 10 years, I don't see any venue that the Bills could move to and provide new ownership a significant ROI for what they'll need to have to pay for the team and make it competitive if the team is purchased in the next three to four years... and certainly not in LA where no one gives a rats a$$. You're looking at between $1.2 - $1.5 billion to buy this team... and then the expense of relocation at a time when taxpayers are fed up with opening their wallets to big profit centers that do nothing but continually suck money out of them? (PS. the $120M taxpayer money for the improvements at the Ralph was only political payback for the $5 billon Barclay Arena and Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn)
DC Tom Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I wasn't the one who moved it, but it was easy enough to figure out why if you read the entire post, particularly this part.... Someone read that whole thing? I prefer the theory that the mods wanted me to beat the tar out of this idiot.
4merper4mer Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I wasn't the one who moved it, but it was easy enough to figure out why if you read the entire post, particularly this part.... I stopped as soon as he called himself the voice of reality. You can find fault with any team. For instance, the Steelers look the other way from rape. Is that the mark of a good organization?
boyst Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 This thread proves we need Crayons. He would do well herr
Azalin Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Still, why is this on the political board and why does anyone care about someone stopping being a Bills fan, much less which team he picked? I'm guessing that it was probably moved here to provide fodder for those that like calling idiots idiots. I don't care how many paragraphs someone uses to try to rationalize turning their back on their team, the only justification in my eyes for bailing on the Bills would be if they were moved to a different city. that would do it for me.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Take yer awesome posting skills over to a Steelers board. CYA! Too bad there aren't any halfway decent ones.
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Wow what a fisherman the OP was! Bait gulped to the tail! Trick is how to get the hook out?
GG Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 1) the first common denominator is "Buffalo". .... There are 19 million New Yorkers. 11 million of them live below the northern boundaries of Rockland and Putnam counties, roughly 400 miles from Buffalo. The other 8 million New Yorkers living north and west of that don't matter to the politicos and they don't give a ****. Numbers are off a bit.
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