Reed83HOF Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Maybe the NFL needs to look at tighter rules on the whole coaching thing. We have the Rooney rule. Why not coaches can only be interviewed 3 times over no more then 6 business days? The team must rule out coaches after the three days from last interview and submit a secret list or something to the NFL on who they like and don't... Just throwing it to the wall to see if it sticks. This could potentially hurt a lot of teams. its not even 1am and Wawrow is tweeting? Shirley, he isn't even past his first drink yet! Don't call him Shirley! What bothers me the most about this is that you have 1 screwed up team that will screw other teams. This is just so late in the process it it can not only disrupt the Bills, but anotheer team or 2 of we go to pilfer their coaches. Not to mention, without a promotion being givinen, we will have to ask permission to take position coaches from other teams who have their staff's settled; of course they won't agree unless the guy is their Crossman... Of course (full disclosure) if this was happening to the Pats, Jets, 'Phins, Cowboys or Redskins I would be laughing hysterically
snamsnoops Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Sorry. I. will. do. better. next. time. Mrs. Mackey. Didn't. know. my. ninth. grade. english. teacher. was. a. Marrone. fan. So U R saying Marrone has a fan! Edited January 23, 2014 by snamsnoops
QCity Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You are correct, but I look at it a little differently. You usually only get one shot, not that you can hold out for the perfect position (if it was it wouldn't be open), but I would at least want to be on equal footing and not a late add after other turned it down. With what they did with Chud and trading Richardson took the wind out of that team...It wouldn't give me the best vibes. They would really have to upsell to me; it might be my only chance to be an HC ever again if the team makes it hard for me to succeed.... I get what you are saying, but on the other hand, there is no guarantee that he will ever get asked again. If you get your shot - take it and even if you fail you can say you gave it your all. Worst case is you are financially set for life. Bottom line, he could get fired next season by this fickle bunch when the guy they "really want" comes available, or if they get a new GM who wants his own guy, or if he faces hard luck due to injury as Chud did this season when Hoyer went down. Pettine would be right to beware of this situation. Contracts for coaches are guaranteed. Poor Chud, he's only going to get paid $10.5M for one year of work. Who on earth would ever want a HC job, huh? Maybe we should pass the hat around so he can pay his rent. At at the end of it all, Chud's name didn't really get tarnished. If anything, it seems the consensus is that he didn't get a fair shot.
Reed83HOF Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I get what you are saying, but on the other hand, there is no guarantee that he will ever get asked again. If you get your shot - take it and even if you fail you can say you gave it your all. Worst case is you are financially set for life. Contracts for coaches are guaranteed. Poor Chud, he's only going to get paid $10.5M for one year of work. Who on earth would ever want a HC job, huh? Maybe we should pass the hat around so he can pay his rent. At at the end of it all, Chud's name didn't really get tarnished. If anything, it seems the consensus is that he didn't get a fair shot. You definitely bring up the reason(s) for taking the job and they are very valid points; hard to dismiss even. Coaches are competitors, they want to win, some even like being the under dog and trying to succeed in a bad situation - if you do; big fame, more money and a great accomplishment. Browns do have the picks, a good D etc... Then there is this - Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 3m Mike Pettine is the clear favorite for the #Browns job heading into tomorrow. Josh McDaniels is not back in the mix. On that note - Honestly I no longer freaking care....whatever
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I get what you are saying, but on the other hand, there is no guarantee that he will ever get asked again. If you get your shot - take it and even if you fail you can say you gave it your all. Worst case is you are financially set for life. Contracts for coaches are guaranteed. Poor Chud, he's only going to get paid $10.5M for one year of work. Who on earth would ever want a HC job, huh? Maybe we should pass the hat around so he can pay his rent. At at the end of it all, Chud's name didn't really get tarnished. If anything, it seems the consensus is that he didn't get a fair shot. You act as though the objective is for the coaching gig to be some kind of golden parachute wherein the guy who gets the job makes a lot of money, and he should just be satisfied with that. The reality is that these are hyper-competitive people who want to win in the NFL. Do you think Chud would rather prove he can win with the Browns and taste the playoffs and continue to build his rep, or sit on the sidelines and hope that he can work up the ranks again? The likelihood is that he is not going to be a head coach again for at least two more years. I think given what we know about why people wouldn't take the Bills job circa the Gailey hiring, that there is a palpable stink around the Browns franchise right now, and that's why guys like Gase, potentially Quinn and even a guy like McDaniels who has a couple strikes against him will keep coordinator positions with winning franchises and pass on the Browns job.
QCity Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) On that note - Honestly I no longer freaking care....whatever I'm with you on that. Bring on the draft already. You act as though the objective is for the coaching gig to be some kind of golden parachute wherein the guy who gets the job makes a lot of money, and he should just be satisfied with that. The reality is that these are hyper-competitive people who want to win in the NFL. Do you think Chud would rather prove he can win with the Browns and taste the playoffs and continue to build his rep, or sit on the sidelines and hope that he can work up the ranks again? The likelihood is that he is not going to be a head coach again for at least two more years. I think given what we know about why people wouldn't take the Bills job circa the Gailey hiring, that there is a palpable stink around the Browns franchise right now, and that's why guys like Gase, potentially Quinn and even a guy like McDaniels who has a couple strikes against him will keep coordinator positions with winning franchises and pass on the Browns job. I'm only dispelling the silly notion that Pettine should turn down a HC job. And of course Chud would rather win. The 3 guys you mentioned are coaching in the Super Bowl, and the other for the Pats. We have been a sub .500 team for a long time. I'd guess those 3 guys will be in the playoffs again next year, and are going to be more highly regarded than Pettine. Again, Pettine has no HC experience, no rings, and is on a 6-10 team, he can't pick and choose. If he gets a shot he better fight for it. Edited January 23, 2014 by QCity
snamsnoops Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I don't understand why their looking for a defensive minded HC. Their defense is so far along in terms of talent, wouldn't it make more sense to bring in a coach who'll do more for the offensive side of the ball? Any joe schmoe can coach that defense and make it top 15, but it's going to take a lot of coaching to take this offense with a rookie QB and have it been even with the D. So Joe Schmoe is definitely a candidate for our DC position when it becomes available. Has Joe ever coached at the NFL level, and is he related to Wannastache! Edited January 23, 2014 by snamsnoops
FireChan Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You act as though the objective is for the coaching gig to be some kind of golden parachute wherein the guy who gets the job makes a lot of money, and he should just be satisfied with that. The reality is that these are hyper-competitive people who want to win in the NFL. Do you think Chud would rather prove he can win with the Browns and taste the playoffs and continue to build his rep, or sit on the sidelines and hope that he can work up the ranks again? The likelihood is that he is not going to be a head coach again for at least two more years. I think given what we know about why people wouldn't take the Bills job circa the Gailey hiring, that there is a palpable stink around the Browns franchise right now, and that's why guys like Gase, potentially Quinn and even a guy like McDaniels who has a couple strikes against him will keep coordinator positions with winning franchises and pass on the Browns job. McDaniels and Gase are winning though. Pettine has been 6-10 in the shadows for two years now. He's been said to want to make his own legacy. Would Pettine want to be a successful DC in Buffalo, rising and falling with our HC and our OC? Or does he think he can do better as his own HC than Marrone will be. Its a tough question, but he won't be out of the league if he fails and he'll make enough money to not worry about much. If I was him, it'd be an easy decision.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 McDaniels and Gase are winning though. Pettine has been 6-10 in the shadows for two years now. He's been said to want to make his own legacy. Would Pettine want to be a successful DC in Buffalo, rising and falling with our HC and our OC? Or does he think he can do better as his own HC than Marrone will be. Its a tough question, but he won't be out of the league if he fails and he'll make enough money to not worry about much. If I was him, it'd be an easy decision. If I were him, I'd be very wary of my own arrogance and ask myself if this team gives me the best chance to succeed, or if the best were yet to come in Buffalo. If it's the latter, he could be passing up a chance to enter next offseason in the driver's seat. If they fail with a great defense, he's got just as good of a shot, because it'll be even clearer that what successes the Bills had were in large part due to Pettine's contributions.
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 If I were him, I'd be very wary of my own arrogance and ask myself if this team gives me the best chance to succeed, or if the best were yet to come in Buffalo. If it's the latter, he could be passing up a chance to enter next offseason in the driver's seat. If they fail with a great defense, he's got just as good of a shot, because it'll be even clearer that what successes the Bills had were in large part due to Pettine's contributions. Are you trolling? Screw arrogance. He would get a contract worth over $10 million guaranteed. He'd be arrogant to NOT take the job.
snamsnoops Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) What's so great in Cleveland? It has one of only 32 NFL head coaching positions in his profession. It has the only current opening. It is very interested in him He wants badly to be a head coach. It's not better than being a DC in Buffalo Just for starters Just stating the obvious! Edited January 23, 2014 by snamsnoops
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Are you trolling? Screw arrogance. He would get a contract worth over $10 million guaranteed. He'd be arrogant to NOT take the job. Then so are Gase, Quinn and McDaniels. I'm dead serious.
Dragonborn10 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Pettine had better set a deadline on these guys or he is starting to look the part of a fool. If he interviews three times and then patiently waits until after the SuperBowl to not get the job that is weak. He needs to force their hand.
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Well, he(Marv) did get extremely lucky to find and hire ex Colt HC Ted Marchibroda as his OC. skill
bbb Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I don't think they're being that picky. Rumor is Paul Brown already turned them down. That was a little bit of a miscommunication. He withdrew his name, but it wasn't for the coaching job..............He wants them to get rid of the name Browns.
bbb Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I'm pretty sure the Flats died out about 15 years ago.
BringBackFergy Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 It's 5:30am....I was hoping there'd be some news on what Pettine had for breakfast...thoughts??
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