B-Man Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: Silencing The Opposition. Cornyn Demands Answers From AG Holder on Texans Targeted by the IRS The IRS Targeted Conservatives, but 280 Days Later Nobody Has Been Indicted .
keepthefaith Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: Silencing The Opposition. Cornyn Demands Answers From AG Holder on Texans Targeted by the IRS The IRS Targeted Conservatives, but 280 Days Later Nobody Has Been Indicted . Not pursuing accountability for the IRS actions is good for the country. The Tea Party threatens to derail the pursuit of the redistributive agenda and long-lasting power for Democrats. For the good of the country, it's necessary to eliminate roadblocks such as election outcomes, the Supreme Court, inaction by congress or resistance to any Federal Agency activities aimed at the goal. Nothing trumps the agenda. Not fiscal responsibility, not the constitution or honesty. Time is short, the mission must go forward and the dirty work must be carried out by many. We, the Obama administration know what needs to be done, what's best and how it needs to be done. Those that complain, challenge or resist simply need to be sidestepped in the interest of fairness and equality. Those that are in the way simply seek to maintain their control over those who have not received their fair place in society.
Doc Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Not pursuing accountability for the IRS actions is good for the country. The Tea Party threatens to derail the pursuit of the redistributive agenda and long-lasting power for Democrats. For the good of the country, it's necessary to eliminate roadblocks such as election outcomes, the Supreme Court, inaction by congress or resistance to any Federal Agency activities aimed at the goal. Nothing trumps the agenda. Not fiscal responsibility, not the constitution or honesty. Time is short, the mission must go forward and the dirty work must be carried out by many. We, the Obama administration know what needs to be done, what's best and how it needs to be done. Those that complain, challenge or resist simply need to be sidestepped in the interest of fairness and equality. Those that are in the way simply seek to maintain their control over those who have not received their fair place in society. Barry will not stop until everyone lives like they were born into white privilege.
B-Man Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Obama denies any wrongdoing on IRS, Benghazi. “President Obama said Sunday there was “not even a smidgen” of corruption in the IRS targeting of conservative groups, and that his team did not try to deceive the nation about the terrorist attack in Benghazi to aid his reelection bid in 2012. In a contentious interview with Bill O’Reilly of Fox News before the Super Bowl, the president said he doesn’t remember meeting with former IRS chief Douglas Shulman during any of Mr. Shulman’s 157 VISITS to the White House during his first term.” This reminds me of something: “Number of times that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar: 250.” .
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Obama denies any wrongdoing on IRS, Benghazi. “President Obama said Sunday there was “not even a smidgen” of corruption in the IRS targeting of conservative groups, and that his team did not try to deceive the nation about the terrorist attack in Benghazi to aid his reelection bid in 2012. In a contentious interview with Bill O’Reilly of Fox News before the Super Bowl, the president said he doesn’t remember meeting with former IRS chief Douglas Shulman during any of Mr. Shulman’s 157 VISITS to the White House during his first term.” This reminds me of something: “Number of times that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar: 250.” . That's entirely possible; the "White House" isn't just the president, it's a BIG office/organization. I highly doubt that 157 visits to the White House means 157 meetings with the President...and it's likely that any "meetings" with the President were a three-minute handshake, of which the President probably has dozens a day.
B-Man Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 That's entirely possible; the "White House" isn't just the president, it's a BIG office/organization. I highly doubt that 157 visits to the White House means 157 meetings with the President...and it's likely that any "meetings" with the President were a three-minute handshake, of which the President probably has dozens a day. You assume too much Thomas. No one is saying that they met 157 times. However it is highly probable that they had at least one meeting (more than 3 minutes....lol) in Mr. Obama's entire first term. Evasive answers do not need your support. .
3rdnlng Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) That's entirely possible; the "White House" isn't just the president, it's a BIG office/organization. I highly doubt that 157 visits to the White House means 157 meetings with the President...and it's likely that any "meetings" with the President were a three-minute handshake, of which the President probably has dozens a day. If I remember correctly the logs show that he did meet with the president for a substantial amount of time a couple days before a memo was sent down that is perceived to be the catalyst for the targeting. I believe you and I have already discussed this with you believing that nothing happens within the government within a couple days and me believing that if they wanted to pull this off they could do it in that amount of time. We probably ended the discussion with you calling me an idiot and me calling you a prick. Edit: We specifically discussed the extensive WH meeting that William Wilkins, Chief Counsel for the IRS had with Obama two days before the crackdown was initiated. Edited February 3, 2014 by 3rdnlng
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 You assume too much Thomas. No one is saying that they met 157 times. However it is highly probable that they had at least one meeting (more than 3 minutes....lol) in Mr. Obama's entire first term. Evasive answers do not need your support. I would add that it's also something of a relative number when you consider that in the same time period, Kathleen Sebelius visited the WH about six times. In hindsight this makes sense since the use of the IRS to shut down opposing voices was tremendously successful and the ACA is the single largest government FUBAR in the history of, like, forever.
keepthefaith Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Obama denies any wrongdoing on IRS, Benghazi. “President Obama said Sunday there was “not even a smidgen” of corruption in the IRS targeting of conservative groups, and that his team did not try to deceive the nation about the terrorist attack in Benghazi to aid his reelection bid in 2012. In a contentious interview with Bill O’Reilly of Fox News before the Super Bowl, the president said he doesn’t remember meeting with former IRS chief Douglas Shulman during any of Mr. Shulman’s 157 VISITS to the White House during his first term.” This reminds me of something: “Number of times that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar: 250.” . How silly of O'Reilly to ask questions that the President has not interest or intent to answer succinctly.
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 You assume too much Thomas. No one is saying that they met 157 times. However it is highly probable that they had at least one meeting (more than 3 minutes....lol) in Mr. Obama's entire first term. Evasive answers do not need your support. . So why bring up "He was at the White House 157 times" then?
B-Man Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 So why bring up "He was at the White House 157 times" then? Line #3 of my response However it is highly probable that they had at least one meeting (more than 3 minutes....lol) in Mr. Obama's entire first term. In his interview, Mr. Obama stated that he did not recall meeting with Mr. Shulman even once. I then pointed out that due to the high number of visits ( 157) that was improbable. Not important in the big scheme of things, other than example # 2,223 of evading answers and non-transparancy .
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Yawn I know, right? I mean, why would anyone ever consider the notion that the most feared domestic wing of the federal government, entrusted with the punitive powers to destroy lives, being used as a political weapon to surpress dissent and punish opposition, to be destructive to the very fabric of republican governance and the underpinnings of a free society? Edited February 3, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker
3rdnlng Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Yawn Would you make up your mind? Benghazi was funny, IRS malfeasance is boring. What are the NSA and Fast and Furious scandals then? Oh, and BTW, what do you consider the unconstitutional palace coup that is going on with Obama and his lawmaking?
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 I know, right? I mean, why would anyone ever consider the notion that the most feared domestic wing of the federal government, entrusted with the punitive powers to destroy lives, being used as a political weapon to surpress dissent and punish opposition, to be destructive to the very fabric of republican governance and the underpinnings of a free society? I intentionally missed the O'Reilly/Obama interview yesterday, but I read where Obama explained to O'Reilly that things like the IRS and Benghazi are only issues because Fox News keeps bringing them up. Obama is in dire need of getting the gatomans riled up for November because he has completely quit on trying to do anything other than hide for the rest of his time in office.
Azalin Posted February 3, 2014 Author Posted February 3, 2014 ......he has completely quit on trying to do anything other than hide for the rest of his time in office. as long as no one lets him have a pen or a phone, that's not a bad thing.
IDBillzFan Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 as long as no one lets him have a pen or a phone, that's not a bad thing. I have progressive friends in my Facebook TL crowing about the interview. They take it as a sign that Obama will now do what they all hoped he would do when they first elected him. I'm thinking...everything he has touched in the past five years has turned into an unmitigated mess, but you somehow think he can do some good? That's some serious knob-gobbling right there.
Azalin Posted February 3, 2014 Author Posted February 3, 2014 I'm thinking...everything he has touched in the past five years has turned into an unmitigated mess, but you somehow think he can do some good? That's some serious knob-gobbling right there. as long as there are enough people who will buy the 'it's Bush's fault' line, he'll continue to get away with it.
Doc Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Who cares? A few lanes on a bridge were closed! How can this possibly compare?
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