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Live in Denver, also pulling for the NFC regardless of what happens next weekend, but cannot bring myself to pull for the Broncos vs. the Pats, their fan base is just too dopey. Yes I'm sure if I lived in Boston I'd say the same thing about New England fans, but I don't, so the reality is that despite being as big a Bills fan as there is, I am pulling for New England on Sunday.

 

 

Dopey >>>>>>>> Mass holes

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that's hilarious. An incident like that gets spotlighted? Whoever the woman is, well, she is ineffective. In calling what Manning did to bring it to light for no reason, well, she brings it up for no reason. Instead of picking on another athlete she goes for the golden goose...and fails.

 

That woman is a dolt nitwit moron.

 

It's also worth noting Brennan is to gender stuff what Al Sharpton is to race. Every Billy Jean King documentary shows her eyes lighting up as if watching her beat some 55yr old fart was the highlight of her life.

 

3) So, how is Denver's run D, and D overall, without Von Miller? They need 'em to sit on Brady and Co for Denver to have a chance.

 

Miller was never real close to last year's version anyway so not a huge loss. Football Outsiders has their D middle of the pack & 9th vs the run.

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Ah, the Sour Grapes thread.

 

What can you say, besides "Hat's off"? Brady and Manning are amazing quarterbacks and really nice guys, too. If only they were Buffalo Bills.

Swap them and the results don't change. Brady has always had the more balanced team and better coaching staff.

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I personally think it's been a great rivalry for the NFL and I'm very much looking forward to them staring into the whites of one anothers eyes with a place in the Superbowl at stake one last time. A bit like that US Open final where Sampras and Agassi played when they were both all but done (think it might have been Sampras' very last match before retirement) it is one of the age old great sporting scenarios... two great Champions one last time. The match up suits Denver in just about every way I think... but then Belichick has found ways to confuse Manning before.... I'm sure that New England will come up with something next weekend, but whereas you can stcik Talib on TY Hilton and shut down Indi... who do you stick him on against Denver? They have so many weapons.

 

Their era is nearly over, but I will be sitting back to enjoy next Sunday... because I'll still be talking about Brady vs Manning in 15/20 years. They are games that have defined an era.

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I have always like Peyton. For some reason, I am starting to hear more and more people say that they don't like him and wish he would go away. These same people seem to think Brady is wonderful. I don't get it. I will root for the Broncos if they get in, or I will root for whoever the NFC team is if the Patriots get in.

 

I just get sick of watching the same guys competing for the championship every year. By all logical theories Manning & Brady's time should of been done quite some time ago but here they are 15 years later as good as ever. I mean it is mind boggling that they have been this good for this long. I also don't like how they get treated differently then the rest of the qbs in the league. You brush against them a second after they release the ball & it is roughing the passer. That call last night towards the end where they called PI to keep their drive alive was marginal. The refs let them play all game & then they call that at the end. Hardly any other QB gets that call. I don't know maybe it is just me being a sore loser, I always liked Manning but I am getting sick of him. I almost hope he fails his physical in March so he can't play anymore.

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/2003-11-06-brennan_x.htm

 

Ya...real class guy. Stop idolizing athletes, people.

 

I don't know, if that is the worse that could be said about manning that he mooned some reporter when he was 21 years old after being in the spotlight for all these years I would probably have to say that the article drives home the point that manning is a petty good guy more so then he is a jerk.

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Honestly, how could anyone HATE Peyton Manning? Freaking model citizen of all time, pro's pro, class act and the best field general I have ever seen. Those who want him to go away, look at whats around the corner.....the inked-up gamer generation with Superman complexes.

 

Brady played in a system predicated on cheating for a large part of his career. He benefited greatly from methods that were indeed known to be violations of the rules. This is a fact. He mastered a system (damn well I might add), and while the level of mastery is oddly something to be in awe of, it is beyond me how that little painful fact of cheating is so easily forgotten by many. It negates everything done before the story broke....and tarnishes everything after.

 

Yes he deserves asterisks all over his stats, NO he does not deserve the HOF, nor does Bellicheck. They do not deserve their Lombardi's . They do not deserve any of the 3 rings. They won every SB by 3 points - cheating. It made a difference. The media has blacked it out, the NFL has conveniently left it behind as it's a threat to the gravy train....it is in no way an indication of the significance of the matter.

 

Brady doesn't belong in the same conversation as Manning. Anyone (thats not a fan boy) with a moral compass would agree.

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If I strictly follow the misery loves company doctrine my rooting order would be:

 

NE*

Denver

SF

Seattle

 

This would be due to NE* having won most recently, but NE* is a special case and I reserve the right to alter the doctrine because the Patriots* are the Patriots*. Therefore, my rooting preference becomes.

 

Denver

SF

NE*

Seattle

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I'd take Manning over Brady any day in the playoffs. I just hate the Patriots. But, I am so sick of Manning and his antics. He gets away with murder. How do you get your OL to stand up, your WR's to walk over to you and your RB's to get up from their stance while Manning make a Manhattan, smokes a cigar and then gets the defense to take a timeout because they are too stupid to realize its 99% schtick and show.

 

I'd love to see someone just knock him on his ass in a few weeks after they beat the Patriots. A Seattle/Denver Super Bowl? Meh. I think no matter who ends up in the Super Bowl I will root against all four teams?

 

I guess Denver might be the team I want so people can stop saying Brady has X amount of rings and Manning only has 1.

 

Seattle vs Denver in the Super Bowl is *almost* an all AFC match-up, since Seattle was in the AFC until the NFL realignment a few years back.

 

Nice trivia:

Seattle is the only team to have played in both the AFC and NFC Championship Games

 

I will root for whoever plays NE.

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If the Super Bowl is New England Vs. Seattle, dear God. I have to choose between Bellicheat & Carroll?! :sick: :sick: :sick:

How about the Lynch haters who would have to choose between Lynch and Brady ;)

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I'm still OK with Manning because he hasn't got that "my ship don't stink" attitude.

 

He's been on the receiving end of the bad Refs calls where Brady has them in his pocket.

 

you can't deny the favoritism the Putrids get week in and week out.

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Peyton Manning is my all-time favorite NFL player (non-Bill). He is greatness on the field and off. All class, too. I hate Brady and the Pats*for obvious reasons, so that makes it easy for me to cheer for Denver from here on out. I also can't stand how the media keeps saying Peyton has something to prove and a "cloud" over his head. He has a SB ring and played in 2. He made the playoffs every year he played in the league except 1. He will be playing in his 22nd playoff game this week. If anyone has yet to read the SI Sportsman of the Year article on him, I highly recommend it. Amazing where he was 2 years ago to where he is today with having to completely re-learn everything.

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Yeah, Manning had to face down QBs like Schaub, Carr, McNair....

 

And Brady's playoff record (you know, when not playing the AFCE) is 18-7 whereas Manning just got to 10-11.

 

Head to head, Brady has beaten Manning regularly, home or away.

Brady's had the superior defense and HC, period. It takes more than just a QB to win games (as we saw with Luck the other night). McNair actually split an MVP w/ Manning ? and Schaub had some very good seasons. The AFC "least" had about 8 decent games from Bledsoe as a Bill (one of which was a win vs Brady and Pats*) as far as good QB's go. Not much to speak of for QB play. Alex Smith is a better QB by far than anything in the AFCE other than Brady. 3 or 4 "automatic" division wins a year goes a long way toward securing a bye week. QB's don't actually play "against" each other. BB and the NE defense have been superior in most of those games, hence the record. Whatever, it isn't as simple as one QB vs another. This year, a bogus "offensive PI" against the Broncos and a fluke punt bounce hitting a Bronco in the leg made the difference. Hopefully the Broncos get all the "homer" calls that have benefited the Pats* in so many games....

 

I'm still OK with Manning because he hasn't got that "my ship don't stink" attitude.

 

He's been on the receiving end of the bad Refs calls where Brady has them in his pocket.

 

you can't deny the favoritism the Putrids get week in and week out.

+ 1(million)

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Honestly, how could anyone HATE Peyton Manning? Freaking model citizen of all time, pro's pro, class act and the best field general I have ever seen. Those who want him to go away, look at whats around the corner.....the inked-up gamer generation with Superman complexes.

 

Brady played in a system predicated on cheating for a large part of his career. He benefited greatly from methods that were indeed known to be violations of the rules. This is a fact. He mastered a system (damn well I might add), and while the level of mastery is oddly something to be in awe of, it is beyond me how that little painful fact of cheating is so easily forgotten by many. It negates everything done before the story broke....and tarnishes everything after.

 

Yes he deserves asterisks all over his stats, NO he does not deserve the HOF, nor does Bellicheck. They do not deserve their Lombardi's . They do not deserve any of the 3 rings. They won every SB by 3 points - cheating. It made a difference. The media has blacked it out, the NFL has conveniently left it behind as it's a threat to the gravy train....it is in no way an indication of the significance of the matter.

 

Brady doesn't belong in the same conversation as Manning. Anyone (thats not a fan boy) with a moral compass would agree.

Manning is old-school. He will outwork anyone when he has already achieved everything. Not constantly posting pics of himself on Twitter. When asked last night by a reporter if he was thinking about his neck injury during the game, he said "only thing that's weighing on my mind is how soon I can get a Bud Light."
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I like Manning. Respect Brady. And I like watching both the 49ers and Seahawks. So really, its a win for me, with 3/4 teams. And as much as I'm tired of Brady, he's one of those greats that I'll look back on and feel lucky I had the chance to witness his career.

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I gotta say, coverage of these match-ups, and personalitues will always reach the saturation point for most of us...I find myself enjoying the games a lot more if I pay less attention to ESPN and NFL Network, etc etc...there is very little news value to their programming...we get burned out on guys like Manning and Brady...don't let the coverage turn you off from watching and enjoying some of the very greatest players from this era...in the "good old days" we were starved for football coverage, now we are stuffed with it.

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