bisonbrigade Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If the Bills have any hope of beating New England to win the Division they need to tighten there run Defense. They need to draft a stud run stuffing LB, then draft a OG and TE. The Bills need to see if someone wants to trade up maybe for a WR. 1st Round, TE Jace Amaro 2nd Round,ILB Shane Skov 2nd Round, OT Antonio Richardson 3rd Round, OG Anthony Steen. 4th Round, WR Mike Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So do the Colts apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 NO it comes down to scheme. Watch the Jets. They throw 3-4 DTs on the field at once. We put out an undersized Kyle Williams, and Dareus and expect to stop them. No sir. You need 3 or 4 big guys plus 2 ends to hold the edge. A 5 man line to eat up the Pats blockers. Then you need good LB play & a SS crashing down that can tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'd rather be winning at the end of the game. Then the other team wont be running. 1 - Mike Evans, WR 2 - Troy Niklas, TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'd rather be winning at the end of the game. Then the other team wont be running. 1 - Mike Evans, WR 2 - Troy Niklas, TE Exactly. Score more points, teams will run less. I don't think our defense will ever be a top 5 rushing defense team. We have too many hybrid pass rushing guys and too much age/contract issues on our D. Say we go all out and draft defensive players next year. Unless two of them are bonafide stars right off the bat, we'll be better, but probably not top 10. You need luck as much luck as draft skill in order to put together a great defensive unit and the Bills aren't too great in either category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If the Bills have any hope of beating New England to win the Division they need to tighten there run Defense. They need to draft a stud run stuffing LB, then draft a OG and TE. The Bills need to see if someone wants to trade up maybe for a WR. 1st Round, TE Jace Amaro 2nd Round,ILB Shane Skov 2nd Round, OT Antonio Richardson 3rd Round, OG Anthony Steen. 4th Round, WR Mike Davis. Trade out ASJ for Amaro and those would make me smile. But I could live with Amaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looks like New England can ride on the back of Blount all the way to another super bowl appearance. NE, not known as a run first, power running team, has found another way to win. Always changing, adapting, and finding players who can make plays. Blount alone made waste of our D ... and did the same to Indy yesterday. I think NE will own us as long as Belicheck is there. Nor sure Marrone is the answer although it is early in his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Marrone needs to figure out how to get the offense to rack up 24 + points a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 NO it comes down to scheme. Watch the Jets. They throw 3-4 DTs on the field at once. We put out an undersized Kyle Williams, and Dareus and expect to stop them. No sir. You need 3 or 4 big guys plus 2 ends to hold the edge. A 5 man line to eat up the Pats blockers. Then you need good LB play & a SS crashing down that can tackle. Are you saying that Marcel Dareus is undersized? If so, I disagree. I am not sure that it takes much bigger players, but it definitely requires not leaving gaping holes for RBs to run through. Those holes aren't always caused by DL being man-handled by OL. Sometimes it is defenders not being in the right places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'd go Kelvin Benjamin in the first, ASJ in the 2nd, Chris Borland (ILB - Wisconsin) in the 3rd. Come back and grab a conversion player like La'el Collins to play OG in the 4th, grab a big RB in the 5th, a special teams monster in the 6th, and a punter in the 7th. I think that would be a huge step toward improving both sides of the ball. Borland is a very good run defender and has the requisite size to play in Pettine's scheme and keep blockers off of Kiko. I'd rather be winning at the end of the game. Then the other team wont be running. 1 - Mike Evans, WR 2 - Troy Niklas, TE I love that approach; I'm not big on either of those players. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Are you saying that Marcel Dareus is undersized? If so, I disagree. I am not sure that it takes much bigger players, but it definitely requires not leaving gaping holes for RBs to run through. Those holes aren't always caused by DL being man-handled by OL. Sometimes it is defenders not being in the right places No I'm saying Kyle Williams. If the pats have 7 men blocking, why on earth go with a normal front. 4-3 or 3-4? It's obvious they have a superior scheme. All I'm advocating is you need size to beat size. Ted Washington ate 2 blockers, as does a healthy Vince Wilfork. Watching the Bills run 4 man fronts versus 5 OL & 2 Blocking TE sets against Blount made me question the sanity of Pettine. Our LBs were getting directly hit on the 2nd level by huge TEs or OL. Put 3/4 DTs against that formation, maybe the old Bears defense. Houamananewi can't catch his own shadow, & the other TEs have stone hands. They are in there to block. Gotta bring out the big guys to battle them, force Brady to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Live by the blitz, die by the blitz. over pursuing to the ball has left open some big runs. those few BIG runs cost the Bills at least 2 maybe 3 games. but after watching gag the Putrids with a few big runs vs Indy ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) If the Bills have any hope of beating New England to win the Division they need to tighten there run Defense. They need to draft a stud run stuffing LB, then draft a OG and TE. The Bills need to see if someone wants to trade up maybe for a WR. 1st Round, TE Jace Amaro 2nd Round,ILB Shane Skov 2nd Round, OT Antonio Richardson 3rd Round, OG Anthony Steen. 4th Round, WR Mike Davis. So your plan to improve the Bills run defense is to draft offensive players with 4 of the first 5 picks, including the #1 pick? If you really want a big time LB, look for him at #1. Personally, I'd rather draft talent for Pettine to work with, who has shown that he can get good value from his players, than Hackett. Edited January 12, 2014 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 NO it comes down to scheme. Watch the Jets. They throw 3-4 DTs on the field at once. We put out an undersized Kyle Williams, and Dareus and expect to stop them. No sir. You need 3 or 4 big guys plus 2 ends to hold the edge. A 5 man line to eat up the Pats blockers. Then you need good LB play & a SS crashing down that can tackle. And then you get beaten by the majority of the league who employ a pass first approach. The Jets, while being the best in the league vs. the run, had some trouble stopping the pass and as such their D wasn't as dominant as it could have been. In fact, the Bills allowed fewer yards per play than the Jets. Take a look at the Hawks. Their D isn't too different from what Buffalo does. The run a base 4-3 with a mix of 3-4 and they pressure the QB by disguising who is coming. They don't throw a ton of size on the field like you suggest, in fact their DL is kind of small. What they do have are players who are more disciplined and don't make the big mistakes that cost the Bills all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think the Bills need a bigger veteran MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Looks like New England can ride on the back of Blount all the way to another super bowl appearance. NE, not known as a run first, power running team, has found another way to win. Always changing, adapting, and finding players who can make plays. Blount alone made waste of our D ... and did the same to Indy yesterday. I think NE will own us as long as Belicheck is there. Nor sure Marrone is the answer although it is early in his tenure. This is exactly the problem, Bellicheat can play cat d mouse with the best of them. The Bills built a D to shut down Brady and so now the hoodie changes to a power running attack. Too early to say this is a permanent switch for NE but it certainly serves as a short-term edge for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 So your plan to improve the Bills run defense is to draft offensive players with 4 of the first 5 picks, including the #1 pick? If you really want a big time LB, look for him at #1. Personally, I'd rather draft talent for Pettine to work with, who has shown that he can get good value from his players, than Hackett. I like Bama's LB. I don't get all this WR stuff either. We drafted two last year. Are we the Lions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 So your plan to improve the Bills run defense is to draft offensive players with 4 of the first 5 picks, including the #1 pick? If you really want a big time LB, look for him at #1. Personally, I'd rather draft talent for Pettine to work with, who has shown that he can get good value from his players, than Hackett. Well, I think you have to consider a dominant offensive line an investment in owning the time of possession. If the other team has the ball less, your defense improves. If they don't fix that JOKE of an offensive line, they are going nowhere….again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well, I think you have to consider a dominant offensive line an investment in owning the time of possession. If the other team has the ball less, your defense improves. If they don't fix that JOKE of an offensive line, they are going nowhere again. a OL blocks 60 times a game. a WR catches 10 times a game. the Bills gave up the 4th most sacks in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I wouldn't mind getting Brett Kiesel on a two year deal and pairing him with a third or fourth round ILB to stop the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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