row_33 Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 It’s worse under Obamacare? single payer is the only way to go unless you can pay out of pocket for private care on top of it.... but you won’t listen.....
B-Man Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Trump Administration Wins Key Obamacare Lawsuit by David Catron Original Article
BringBackOrton Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 6:03 PM, row_33 said: It’s worse under Obamacare? single payer is the only way to go unless you can pay out of pocket for private care on top of it.... but you won’t listen..... Single payer is crap. Canada's health care is crap. The biggest problem with Canadians is that they have lived in cages for so long, they don't know what freedom feels like.
row_33 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: Single payer is crap. Canada's health care is crap. The biggest problem with Canadians is that they have lived in cages for so long, they don't know what freedom feels like. i know a dozen US families who have lost children and parents to routine cancers that would have been taken care of no problem in Canada in the US they couldn't afford the costs and died, simple as that maybe they deserved it because they weren't rich, that would be an American sentiment, right? Orton, you can't be that much of a mindless pig to make such comments, can you You would be ten-time "free-er" in Canada and your life would be much more enjoyable.... you wouldn't have that 3 foot broom up your ass, for starters..... Edited June 15, 2018 by row_33
keepthefaith Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 5:03 PM, row_33 said: It’s worse under Obamacare? single payer is the only way to go unless you can pay out of pocket for private care on top of it.... but you won’t listen..... I agree. Single payer in that every single person should pay for themselves and their own insurance. When that happens people will be more health conscious, more judicious in what they spend, the medical providers will have to find more cost effective solutions and we can actually have a health care marketplace which we don't have today.
BringBackOrton Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 37 minutes ago, row_33 said: i know a dozen US families who have lost children and parents to routine cancers that would have been taken care of no problem in Canada in the US they couldn't afford the costs and died, simple as that maybe they deserved it because they weren't rich, that would be an American sentiment, right? Orton, you can't be that much of a mindless pig to make such comments, can you You would be ten-time "free-er" in Canada and your life would be much more enjoyable.... you wouldn't have that 3 foot broom up your ass, for starters..... I know dozens of Canadians who opt to travel to the States to actually get care because it's almost inaccessible in Canada. You will never hear me say that a child deserves to die. Or that they deserve cancer.
Koko78 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 The best way to control healthcare costs is to allow full competition by insurance companies nationwide; allow health insurance coverage to be purchased a la carte; mandate that all hospitals and other institutional healthcare providers be non-profit; and mandate that if you can't pay your bill, these guys get to hunt you down and repossess your organs: 1
IDBillzFan Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Single payer is crap. Canada's health care is crap. The biggest problem with Canadians is that they have lived in cages for so long, they don't know what freedom feels like. I'll tell you one thing...I sure the hell hope it doesn't look like this:
3rdnlng Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I'll tell you one thing...I sure the hell hope it doesn't look like this: Enough to make one raise an eyebrow. 1
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 With all the other news of how corrupt, treasonous, inhuman and rotten the Trump cabal is, its easy to forget that they just told all Americans with preexisting medical conditions to drop dead.
ALF Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 Google AI can predict when you will die Do you want to know when you will die? Google is training its new artificial intelligence computer to predict whether hospital patients will die 24-hours after admission. The accuracy of the initial trials is at 95% . The technology Opens a New Window. can also predict the number of days a patient will be in the hospital or the chances of being readmitted. https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/google-ai-can-predict-when-you-will-die Insurance companies will like this
B-Man Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 New Trump Admin Rule Gives Small Businesses Easier Access to Heath Insurance by Mary Chastain June 19, 2018 “You may be able to buy a policy that’s several thousand dollars cheaper."
Koko78 Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: New Trump Admin Rule Gives Small Businesses Easier Access to Heath Insurance by Mary Chastain June 19, 2018 “You may be able to buy a policy that’s several thousand dollars cheaper." That monster! It takes a special kind of evil to allow people to band together to buy insurance plans that doesn't cover things they don't need covered. 1
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 9 hours ago, ALF said: Google AI can predict when you will die Do you want to know when you will die? Google is training its new artificial intelligence computer to predict whether hospital patients will die 24-hours after admission. The accuracy of the initial trials is at 95% . The technology Opens a New Window. can also predict the number of days a patient will be in the hospital or the chances of being readmitted. https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/google-ai-can-predict-when-you-will-die Insurance companies will like this Sounds like a great addition to the death panels.
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Sounds like a great addition to the death panels. Y'know, though...if I go in to the hospital, and an AI says I've got a 95% chance of being dead in 24 hours, I'm pretty much okay with being transferred to hospice. 1
3rdnlng Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Y'know, though...if I go in to the hospital, and an AI says I've got a 95% chance of being dead in 24 hours, I'm pretty much okay with being transferred to hospice. I wonder if AI knows what kind of insurance you have? I'm willing to bet the Medicaid insured people have a lot more chance of being dead in 24 hours than the ones with Cadillac plans. 1
ALF Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 This state has the most fast food restaurants in the country According to a recent study by Datafiniti, there are 6.3 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Alabama—making it the state with the most fast food restaurants in America per capita. Nebraska and West Virginia follow with 5.4 and 5.3 restaurants per capita, respectively. A trend in the research also shows that southern and central states have far more fast food restaurants than the East or West coasts. Meanwhile, Vermont has the least fast food restaurants per capita. New Jersey and New York followed at 2.0 and 2.1 per capita. http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/06/27/this-state-has-most-fast-food-restaurants-in-country.html
ALF Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Family of baby treated at hospital with bottle of formula gets $18G bill: report A bottle of formula and a nap cost $18,000, according to a family whose son was treated at a San Francisco hospital after a head injury. Vox.com reported that a family from South Korea was visiting the city in 2016 when their infant son fell off a hotel bed and hit his head. The baby reportedly never lost consciousness, but was crying hysterically. So out of an abundance of caution, the family took the baby to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, the report said. Doctors quickly determined that eight-month-old Park jeong-whan was fine. The family told the news site that the baby had some formula, took a little snooze and they got on with their vacation. Two years later, the family said they were handed the bill: $18,836. Hospitals defend the charge by essentially saying it costs money to keep a good response team on hand. http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/06/29/family-baby-treated-at-hospital-with-bottle-formula-gets-18g-bill-report.html
BringBackOrton Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 6 hours ago, ALF said: Family of baby treated at hospital with bottle of formula gets $18G bill: report A bottle of formula and a nap cost $18,000, according to a family whose son was treated at a San Francisco hospital after a head injury. Vox.com reported that a family from South Korea was visiting the city in 2016 when their infant son fell off a hotel bed and hit his head. The baby reportedly never lost consciousness, but was crying hysterically. So out of an abundance of caution, the family took the baby to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, the report said. Doctors quickly determined that eight-month-old Park jeong-whan was fine. The family told the news site that the baby had some formula, took a little snooze and they got on with their vacation. Two years later, the family said they were handed the bill: $18,836. Hospitals defend the charge by essentially saying it costs money to keep a good response team on hand. http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/06/29/family-baby-treated-at-hospital-with-bottle-formula-gets-18g-bill-report.html Y'all know why that bill is so expensive right?
ALF Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Woman Cries Over Ambulance Cost After Getting Leg Caught in Platform Gap The victim reportedly begged people not to call an ambulance, despite her painful injury The 45-year-old woman was taken to Boston Medical Center and is recovering. A police report said the severe laceration on the woman's leg left her bone exposed. Maria Cramer ✔ @GlobeMCramer Awful scene on the orange line. A woman’s leg got stuck in the gap between the train and the platform. It was twisted and bloody. Skin came off. She’s in agony and weeping. Just as upsetting she begged no one call an ambulance. “It’s $3000,” she wailed. “I can’t afford that.” After Globe reporter Maria Cramer tweeted about the incident, the New York Times editorial board penned a story entitled "This Tweet Captures the State of Health Care in America Today." MBTA officials told the Globe that the gap between the train and the platform was about five inches wide. https://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Womans-Leg-Caught-Between-Orange-Line-Train-and-MBTA-Platform-at-Mass-Ave-Station-Boston-487178921.html
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