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The Affordable Care Act II - Because Mr. Obama Loves You All


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If you're expecting the Democrats to cooperate on a replacement bill, you're probably in need of Lithium.

 

Repeal is a good start.

 

Somewhere there are Ds and Rs on Capitol Hill discussing how to work together to make a better bill. It's happening. It's just a matter of whether those souls can get a big enough group to hold a press conference and shove it up their leadership's butt. Would take brass ones and a breakaway group of 30 Congressmen. Not easy but American needs those people to come forward.

 

There's no way every elected D thinks that Pelosi and Schumer speak for them. No chance.

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Somewhere there are Ds and Rs on Capitol Hill discussing how to work together to make a better bill. It's happening. It's just a matter of whether those souls can get a big enough group to hold a press conference and shove it up their leadership's butt. Would take brass ones and a breakaway group of 30 Congressmen. Not easy.

 

Let's hope you're right.

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Let's hope you're right.

 

I am right.

 

But I also doubt whether enough of the moderates can band together and put their political futures on the cutting block for the country.

 

I do think if they had enough bodies and a good social media campaign that took the case to America, America would listen. At some point the extreme voices will lose.

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once you create an entitlement

 

it never leaves

 

Ahhhh.....such insight!

 

Before the ACA...the Federal Gov't had long decided that people would not go without HC....those without insurance would be treated in emergency rooms and the costs for that would be soaked up - in the end - by the taxpayer....

 

But keep up with your talking points! - Good Job!

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1) How much did you make?

2) Give it to us.

3) skip 1 & 2, fill out and complete Treasury direct deposit form

https://twitter.com/Rob_Flaherty/status/887883529891192835

 

Our president is a literal retard

 

Where can I get this $12/year insurance?

Colonial Life 10 Year Term Life Insurance, 400k death benefit. Maybe Trebeck should be heading up this insurance reform effort...

If only that were true.

 

@FortuneMagazine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Donald Trump thinks health insurance costs $12 per year when you're 21: http://for.tn/2uMZ8GW

 

DJT has the $12/mo, 300k annual deductible plan, obviously...

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If you're expecting the Democrats to cooperate on a replacement bill, you're probably in need of Lithium.

 

Repeal is a good start.

The Republicans can't even work together to get a repeal, heck they are having trouble working together to do anything

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Parody (?) from the New York Times.........

 

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3 things President Trump is already doing to "let Obamacare fail" http://nyti.ms/2uDkrKn

 

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Stephen Miller Retweeted The New York Times

1. By following precedent set by Obama

2. SCOTUS ruled states can opt out

3. Not his f**king job.

 

 

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So you must be happy Liberals get Planned Parenthood funded, right? Come on now, maybe we can agree on something here, lol

Sure I'd be happy they get it funded. Just not on my nickel. And in my scenario PP wouldn't be needed. Everyone is sterilized at birth and must pass an intelligence and financial test to have it reversed.

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Uhhhh need some context there

 

Data is based on a family in what state?

http://news.ehealthinsurance.com/news/average-individual-health-insurance-premiums-increased-99-since-2013-the-year-before-obamacare-family-premiums-increased-140-according-to-ehealth-com-shopping-data

 

Average Individual Health Insurance Premiums Increased 99% Since 2013, the Year Before Obamacare, & Family Premiums Increased 140%, According to eHealth.com Shopping Data
January 23, 2017

eHealth reports that average premiums for people not receiving Obamacare subsidies were $393 for individual coverage and $1,021 for family coverage during the first two months of open enrollment; in 2013 individual premiums averaged $197, or $426 for families

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif.--Jan. 23, 2017-- Today eHealth, Inc. (NASDAQ: EHTH) (eHealth.com), the nation’s first and largest private online health insurance exchange, released an analysis of individual and family health insurance shopping trends for the first two months of the 2017 open enrollment period. Open enrollment for 2017 health insurance plans under the Affordable Care Act (ACA or Obamacare) began on November 1, 2016 and is scheduled to continue through January 31, 2017.

eHealth’s analysis provides an aggregated, anonymized examination of individual and family health insurance premiums and deductibles for plans selected by eHealth shoppers not receiving government subsidies under the ACA from November 1 through December 31, 2016. It also includes demographic information on shoppers and a review of individual and family costs previously published by eHealth since 2008.

This is the latest installment in eHealth’s continuing Health Insurance Price Index reports, which have tracked costs and trends in the self-purchased health insurance market since 2014. Prior to 2014, eHealth published an annual Cost and Benefits report, which tracked cost and benefit trends in the self-purchased health insurance market since 2005.

Individual coverage highlights

  • Average individual premium: $393 per month for an individual not receiving subsidies in the first two months of the 2017 open enrollment period
  • In 2013, the year before major Obamacare provisions came into effect, the average individual premium was $197 per month
  • Between 2013 and the first two months of the 2017 open enrollment period, average individual premiums have increased 99%

Family coverage highlights

  • Average family premium: $1,021 per month for a family not receiving subsidies in the first two months of the 2017 open enrollment period
  • In 2013, the year before major Obamacare provisions came into effect, the average family’s premium was $426 per month
  • Between the end of 2013 and the first two months of the 2017 open enrollment period, average family premiums have increased 140%

Notes about historical data

Premium data for the 2014-2017 open enrollment periods reflect premiums for plans selected by eHealth customers not receiving government subsidies. Government subsidies were not available prior to 2014.

The health insurance plans available from eHealth or selected by eHealth shoppers each year are not the same from year to year. In addition, health insurance plans available before implementation of the Affordable Care Act often provided more limited benefits and coverage than plans available after implementation of Obamacare provisions. For example, such earlier plans did not have to meet Obamacare’s minimum essential benefit requirements and, in many cases, were not required to cover pre-existing medical conditions.

 

 

 

 

Premiums before Obamacare were $197 in 2013 with an average deductible of $3319

 

Premiums in 2014 first year was $271 with an average deductible of $4164

 

Premiums in 2017 was $393 with an average deductible of $4385

 

 

Of course this doesn't take into account subsidies or accepting many people with pre ex, which of course factor in greatly, but the underlying cost that the customer along with the customer has risen sharply.

 

One other interesting note,

 

Pre ACA 2008 premiums was $159 with an average deductible of a little over $2000.

 

Pre ACA 2012 premiums was $190 with an average deductible of around $3000.

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