Azalin Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Pizza Waitress Mowed down by Cyclist is out of Work and Drowning in Debt.. https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170523/greenpoint/nypd-greenpoint-94th-precinct-cyclist-pedestrian-vision-zero?_ga=2.114966727.1309598672.1495632659-734270219.1451310010 . Why doesn't she have health insurance? It's affordable and mandated by law now.......Oh.. . Media can throw out that idiotic metric of "20 million gained insurance!" all they want. This is an inescapable fact. And they know it. No worries .. Obamacare will fix this by fining her for not buying insurance. A pizza waitress makes too much money to get a subsidy? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 A pizza waitress makes too much money to get a subsidy? Seriously? Big tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Pizza Waitress Mowed down by Cyclist is out of Work and Drowning in Debt.. https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170523/greenpoint/nypd-greenpoint-94th-precinct-cyclist-pedestrian-vision-zero?_ga=2.114966727.1309598672.1495632659-734270219.1451310010 . Why doesn't she have health insurance? It's affordable and mandated by law now.......Oh.. . Media can throw out that idiotic metric of "20 million gained insurance!" all they want. This is an inescapable fact. And they know it. No worries .. Obamacare will fix this by fining her for not buying insurance. Another great case for Universal Health Care which will eventually happen because of stories like these. There were even many cases like this before the ACA. By the way, my sister didn't get any subsidies and is paying $245 a month right now so i don't know why she had to pay $400.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Another great case for Universal Health Care which will eventually happen because of stories like these. There were even many cases like this before the ACA. By the way, my sister didn't get any subsidies and is paying $245 a month right now so i don't know why she had to pay $400.00. Ummm...we have Universal Health Care. It's called the Affordable Care Act. And regarding your sister: what is her deductible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Ummm...we have Universal Health Care. It's called the Affordable Care Act. And regarding your sister: what is her deductible? And how old is she? And what state is she in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 And how old is she? And what state is she in? How many dependents are on her plan? How many dependents were on the pizza waitress's (what the !@#$ is a pizza waitress anyway..sorry I digress) plan. Ohhhh so many unanswered questions. I love these apples to oranges comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Ummm...we have Universal Health Care. It's called the Affordable Care Act. And regarding your sister: what is her deductible? No. No we don't have Universal Health Care as that woman's story above proved. She has a $4000 deductible under the bronze plan. She's 28 and lives in Angola. Edited May 24, 2017 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 No. No we don't have Universal Health Care as that woman's story above proved. She has a $4000 deductible under the bronze plan. She's 28 and lives in Angola. We DO have Universal Health Care. Or, at least, Universal Health Insurance. She can keep her coverage. She can keep her doctor. That's what she was promised? Remember? However, she chose not to participate, which is against the law and results in a fine (which I'm told is also a tax) that she is supposed to pay to ensure everyone gets coverage at a lower rate. So in the end, she was let down by both the Affordable Care Act, and her own choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Tossing taxes into medical coverage was a cruel thing to do. A pizza waitress makes too much money to get a subsidy? Seriously? Tony, I'm sorry for disrespecting the pizza parlor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 We DO have Universal Health Care. Or, at least, Universal Health Insurance. She can keep her coverage. She can keep her doctor. That's what she was promised? Remember? However, she chose not to participate, which is against the law and results in a fine (which I'm told is also a tax) that she is supposed to pay to ensure everyone gets coverage at a lower rate. So in the end, she was let down by both the Affordable Care Act, and her own choices. I'll pull a Sean Spicer. If we had Universal Health Care she would of been covered. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I'll pull a Sean Spicer. If we had Universal Health Care she would of been covered. Period. It's "would have". Sorry but you do this all the time and it detracts from your intelligent and erudite posts. BTW, we are fortunate to have you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 It's "would have". Sorry but you do this all the time and it detracts from your intelligent and erudite posts. BTW, we are fortunate to have you here. You're correct. My mistake. Also, thanks for the compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 And how old is she? And what state is she in? And don't forget, pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 As if we need another reason to slam lazy journalists, anyone notice how everyone is rushing to report that the GOP plan would result in 26 million people losing coverage? Wonder how many have examined the numbers behind that stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 As if we need another reason to slam lazy journalists, anyone notice how everyone is rushing to report that the GOP plan would result in 26 million people losing coverage? Wonder how many have examined the numbers behind that stat? Media is excited over the fact that Obamacare sucks, and double jizzing because the Republicans can't fix it. Headline mongering sutpidity dominating. What I see is a Republican party with a huge opportunity but can't build a better alternative. Health care is a hard problem. Be nice if the parties would work together to try to solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 HHS: Premiums for individual health plans doubled between 2013 and 2017The Department of Health and Human Services issued a report Tuesday which found that individual market premiums have doubled under Obamacare. From the report: Comparing the 2013 average premiums using the MLR data with the 2017 average premiums obtained using CMS MIDAS data shows average premiums were 105% higher in 2017 than in 2013 and that the median state premium increase was 108%. Moreover, 62% of states using Healthcare.gov had 2017 average premiums double average premiums in 2013. Further work could approximate the relative contribution of the various ACA provisions, such as benefit mandates, guaranteed issue, and rating rules, to the overall premium increase in this market. So the bottom line here is that premiums have more than doubled in 4 years. Will CA Democrats go full tilt on single payer — despite the costs? Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas City drops Obamacare coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 As if we need another reason to slam lazy journalists, anyone notice how everyone is rushing to report that the GOP plan would result in 26 million people losing coverage? Wonder how many have examined the numbers behind that stat? It's been every headline, no matter where I looked...until the Montana GOP'er throttled the reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 sad when the MSM headlines about important topics like health care are no more important than their obsessions with a Kardashian headline, and both are equally valid just another nuisance to try to avoid, but good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Republican tax cut plan throws millions off of health care/insurance Media bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Republican tax cut plan throws millions off of health care/insurance Media bad! US missed the boat on Universal Health Care just after WW2. try 1,000,000 variations on this unfortunate reality with Dems promising complete care from erection to Resurrection since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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