Bray Wyatt Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Sure Obama promised to expand health insurance and did. Trump promised the same, said it would be cheaper and great. His bill threw 24 million off health care/insurance, raised rates for many and did nothing at all he said it would. Yes, I see how you would confuse Obama's and Trump's statements Actually they do let your bargain if you don't have insurance, they usually have rates that they charge the companies but if you are paying out of pocket will charge you different, and especially if they know they cant afford things (and since they are obligated to treat) they will work out something that is manageable for all parties (and no she didn't have a pre existing condition) And you keep throwing out this expanded health insurance like it means something, yes more people are on insurance, but the insurance doesn't cover anything and they cant afford to use it, then what good is it? That's why Obamacare is a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Actually they do let your bargain if you don't have insurance, they usually have rates that they charge the companies but if you are paying out of pocket will charge you different, and especially if they know they cant afford things (and since they are obligated to treat) they will work out something that is manageable for all parties (and no she didn't have a pre existing condition) And you keep throwing out this expanded health insurance like it means something, yes more people are on insurance, but the insurance doesn't cover anything and they cant afford to use it, then what good is it? That's why Obamacare is a failure This is true. That's why every healthcare provider asks you if you're presenting at their office with something that is either Worker's Comp or Accident related. Those cases get the bust-out-retail pricing. Insurance carriers bargain with the actual providers of healthcare to accept a lower rate and fee scale. You end up paying a smaller amount to the provider directly. Some providers will offer you a lower rate if you're uninsured. Of course, the truly uninsured can go to any emergency room and get their healthcare FOR FREE. ES LA LEY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The Dems are hoping to quietly get the funding, so they don't have to explain why the funding is needed. I'm sure they are but they won't be the ones explaining if the funding is cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The Freedumb Caucus is on board for Trumpcare! How could those good Christians resist taking away people's healthcare? http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/26/new-obamacare-repeal-plan-republicans-trump-237625 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The Freedumb Caucus is on board for Trumpcare! How could those good Christians resist taking away people's healthcare? http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/26/new-obamacare-repeal-plan-republicans-trump-237625 The single biggest obstacle to effective health care reform in this country is idiots like you not knowing it from health insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The single biggest obstacle to effective health care reform in this country is idiots like you not knowing it from health insurance. Obfuscation alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I thought they'd make another push for Healthcare because of the stupid 100 day milestone that you know Trump (due to the media) is obsessing over. The GOP has their work cut out for them in selling this bill because it's going to get tremendous backlash. I'm guessing we're going to see a bunch of pictures and stories of sick people saying this bill will "kill" them sprinkled throughout the news media. The GOP is in a lose-lose position with Healthcare no matter what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 [For those of you with gatorman on ignore, ridiculous verbiage removed courtesy of DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. You're welcome.] [This is an automated response.] Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I thought they'd make another push for Healthcare because of the stupid 100 day milestone that you know Trump (due to the media) is obsessing over. The GOP has their work cut out for them in selling this bill because it's going to get tremendous backlash. I'm guessing we're going to see a bunch of pictures and stories of sick people saying this bill will "kill" them sprinkled throughout the news media. The GOP is in a lose-lose position with Healthcare no matter what they do. Don't just blame the media, don't forget the Congressional Budget Office said it would throw 24 million people off of their health insurance. The AMA, hospitals, nurses are also part of the scam to stop this tax cut, mean health reform. So the conspiracy is much broader than the media that has stolen the truth from the Republicans that are truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 WHY PEOPLE LAUGH AT THE UN: UN warned Trump that ObamaCare repeal could violate international law. Also, voters can’t help but notice how “international law” has somehow become a synonym for “whatever the left wants at the moment.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 THE PARTY OF NO: Dems threaten to oppose bill to prevent shutdown if health care vote happens before Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 THE PARTY OF NO: Dems threaten to oppose bill to prevent shutdown if health care vote happens before Saturday. I think it would be fun if they did. Then we can hear all the predictions of people dieing in the streets. Watch videos of people not being able to get in to see Old Faithful etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I think it would be fun if they did. Then we can hear all the predictions of people dieing in the streets. Watch videos of people not being able to get in to see Old Faithful etc. I doubt that there would be much negative coverage of the dems if they do manage to shut it down. It will probably be spun as a bold act of patriotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 That's right, the media is against the good people. Conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Obama provided health insurance to millions and millions, that ain't no lie. And you comparing this scum bag to our last president shows how bankrupt you are I Just checked The United States Constitution, providing insurance to millions is not in the POTUS job discription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I Just checked The United States Constitution, providing insurance to millions is not in the POTUS job discription. What a stupid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 [For those of you with gatorman on ignore, ridiculous verbiage removed courtesy of DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. You're welcome.] [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 [For those of you with gatorman on ignore, ridiculous verbiage removed courtesy of DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. You're welcome.] [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Powerful testimony about lives that have been saved by Obamacare. I know this isn't far right media, but don't be afraid to leave your bubble for the truth http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/obamacare-saved-my-life President Donald Trump has vowed to dismantle the Affordable Care Act (ACA) — a move that could leave some 30 million Americans without health insurance. ACA literally sustains millions of lives . Without the health insurance it provides, many people wouldn't have access to medicine and procedures that they need to survive. When we asked people on Twitter and through healthcare advocacy organizations to share their stories of how ACA keeps them alive, we were overwhelmed with responses. We heard from people waiting for organ transplants, from cancer survivors, from people with debilitating mental illness, and more. They told us about the toll that disease has taken on their lives: Before the ACA, some were forced to skip treatments because of the price; others couldn't get insurance at all because they were already sick. Here are a few of their stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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