DC Tom Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Why are they trying to pass this disaster? Maybe they have to, to see what's in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Why are they trying to pass this disaster? So the Donald can put his name on it. Check off a campaign promise. If they want to repeal and replace "ObamaCare" then do it with a well thought out plan. http://thehill.com/homenews/house/324953-trump-warns-republicans-ahead-of-healthcare-vote Ya, remember that stupid un-health care bill? I'm wondering if this is why the markets took a tumble today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 If a few Dems voted at last minute to save this dumpster fire and send it to the Senate, that would be fun! But looks dead as dead can be right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 If a few Dems voted at last minute to save this dumpster fire and send it to the Senate, that would be fun! But looks dead as dead can be right now Refusing to pass bad legislation is a good thing. It's a lesson Pelosi and Reid could have stood to have learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Refusing to pass bad legislation is a good thing. It's a lesson Pelosi and Reid could have stood to have learned. Ya, its so bad people don't want to give it up! Nancy and Harry did good service to the country getting Obamacare through. That's why this push to repeal it is such a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 THE HILL: Key conservative: GOP doesn’t have votes on healthcare repeal. Maybe they should offer a better bill, one that actually fulfills all their campaign promises. Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Ya, its so bad people don't want to give it up! Nancy and Harry did good service to the country getting Obamacare through. That's why this push to repeal it is such a failure The push to repeal the ACA is a failure because the Republican House somehow managed to come up with something even worse. If people don't want to give up the ACA, it's because it was structured to backload the serious issues to later years, where it would be "somebody else's problem" and not Obama/Reid/Pelosi's fault. As many of us pointed out at the time...and hey, look what's happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) THE HILL: Key conservative: GOP doesn’t have votes on healthcare repeal. Maybe they should offer a better bill, one that actually fulfills all their campaign promises. Just a thought.... What the Freedom caucus would want would largely be rejected by the country, would have even less Republican votes and would be NOT on what the president campaigned on. Edited March 22, 2017 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 This is something that I would have thought would have been a no-brainer to be included in the repeal if it would have been permitted by the rules of budget reconciliation. Apparently, it would be permitted. Which begs the question why did they not include that in the first draft and what else could be added to the Repeal? In any case, I am glad they are looking to add this to the repeal. This alone will help drive down rates. White House officials are moving to eliminate broad coverage requirements for health insurers in the Obamacare repeal bill in a dramatic bid to win over holdout members of the House Freedom Caucus. White House budget director Mick Mulvaney is working with Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), chairman of the hard-line conservative coalition, to strike Obamacare’s lengthy list of essential benefits that health plans now have to cover, according to a senior administration official. Some Republicans have long argued that insurers should be able to sell skimpier coverage that, for example, wouldn't cover maternity or mental health services. Consumers could choose how much insurance they want. Critics of the practice say it could leave people unprotected in the case of sudden illness. A senior leadership aide said Speaker Paul Ryan would support the move and that Ryan's office has been assured removing the benefits would not preclude it from being procedurally blocked under the Senate's strict budget rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Consumers could choose how much insurance they want. Critics of the practice say it could leave people unprotected in the case of sudden illness. Yeah, I really need to be paying for pediatric care just in case I unexpectedly have a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 This is something that I would have thought would have been a no-brainer to be included in the repeal if it would have been permitted by the rules of budget reconciliation. Apparently, it would be permitted. Which begs the question why did they not include that in the first draft and what else could be added to the Repeal? In any case, I am glad they are looking to add this to the repeal. This alone will help drive down rates. I wonder if health insurance without mental health services is what Consevatives had in mind when they said better mental health devices could help stop mass shootings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Yeah, I really need to be paying for pediatric care just in case I unexpectedly have a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Oh boy. Here comes the Koch brothers.... http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/kochs-reserve-fund-health-care/index.html?sr=twCNN032317kochs-reserve-fund-health-care1229AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=35751387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 House ready to change health-care bill after learning Senate reconciliation rules might let them repeal more of ObamaCare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Oh boy. Here comes the Koch brothers.... http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/kochs-reserve-fund-health-care/index.html?sr=twCNN032317kochs-reserve-fund-health-care1229AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=35751387 It's kind of like "Oh boy, here comes George Soros..." but without cops being attacked and limos set on fire and traffic disrupted and homeless people taking a dump on police cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If repeal of the ACA fails, it will be because of these sort of intransigent members of the GOP. Holding out until you get everything you want, knowing that even if you did get all the concessions you were gunning for would lead to a failed outcome in regards to the vote, implies that A) you are delusional or B) you have no interest in negotiating in good faith and are in it for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Maybe they have to, to see what's in it. 2009 called...they want their joke back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2009 called...they want their joke back Tell that to the cackle calling for more Russia investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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