The Affordable Care Act II - Because Mr. Obama Loves You All

[Gary M]

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I guess this is what happens when you have to pass laws through a Senate composed of millionaires

 

and the one of the wealthiest says this!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

[Tiberius]

I guess this is what happens when you have to pass laws through a Senate composed of millionaires

 

and the one of the wealthiest says this!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU

She is not a senator

[Gary M]

She is not a senator

 

Just meant a wealthy politician. They all look out for each other, not us peasants.

[Doc]

Ya right, the health care system was, and is, a mess for a whole lot of people.

 

It's an even bigger mess thanks to Obamacrap.

 

I guess this is what happens when you have to pass laws through a Senate composed of millionaires ram through an inanely crafted law without reading it much less understanding how horrible it will be.

 

Fixed it for you.

[Dorkington]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

 

Interesting poll numbers about single payer and the ACA.

[unbillievable]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

 

Interesting poll numbers about single payer and the ACA.

Here's the thing about "free" government programs. Most people will support it until you tell them they have to pay for it.

 

Look no further than the recent million college idiot march for proof. We want free college! ...as long as someone else pays for it!

Edited May 16, 2016 by unbillievable

[Doc]

Here's the thing about "free" government programs. Most people will support it until you tell them they have to pay for it.

 

Look no further than the recent million college idiot march for proof. We want free college! ...as long as someone else pays for it!

 

Yep. I wonder if they told people it would cost $13T over 10 years and lead to massive tax increases?

[Greg F]

Replacing the ACA with a federally tax payer funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans

 

There ... phrase it that way and see how the numbers change.

[B-Man]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

 

Interesting poll numbers about single payer and the ACA.

 

All you have to do is check the poll to see the (gleeful) headlines are bogus

 

No, The Public Doesn’t Suddenly Support Socialized Medicine

 

A new Gallup survey seems to suggest that majority of Americans now back government-run health care.

 

That, at least, is what Gallup’s headline about its poll says: “Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System.”

The mainstream press eagerly ran with the story. The Washington Post, for example, headlined its piece: “Poll: Most Americans want to replace ObamaCare with single-payer — including many Republicans.”

 

The ABC News headline blared “Poll Says Majority of Americans Prefer ‘Medicare For All’ Health Care,” and the story led by saying that “A growing number of Americans now support the idea of federally funded health care.”

 

Look more carefully at the poll itself, however, and you see that it doesn’t show that at all.

 

Gallup asked three questions relating to ObamaCare that were meant to gauge the public’s support for repealing the law.

 

What it found was that 51% now say ObamaCare should be repealed, whether or not it’s replaced with anything, while just 48% favor keeping it in place.

 

The poll also asked about “replacing the ACA with a federally funded health care program providing insurance for all Americans.”

That question elicited 58% support.

 

What this response means is anyone’s guess. Even Gallup admits it can’t say for sure, particularly since the Republican response to this question is highly questionable.

 

 

Without that unreasonably high GOP number, the support for “Medicare for all” basically vanishes. (Interestingly, Gallup didn’t bother to include a question in the poll asking about replacing ObamaCare with free-market reforms.)

 

In any case, other far-more-straightforward polls show widespread public opposition to government-run health care.

 

Gallup itself has for several years asked whether the public supports a “government-run health care system” or one “based mostly on private health insurance.”

 

The majority has consistently backed the current private system: 55% did so in 2015, which is almost exactly where it stood in 2011.

 

Meanwhile, an AP poll taken earlier this year found that only 39% say they back “replacing the current private health insurance system with a single-payer, Medicare-like plan.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Highmark Health sues government for risk corridor payments

 

 

Health insurer Highmark has lost $700 million in the first two years it sold insurance on the Obamacare exchanges. Now the company is demanding taxpayers cover a portion of those losses and is suing the government for a quarter of a billion dollars. The Wall Street Journal reports:

[keepthefaith]

Here's the thing about "free" government programs. Most people will support it until you tell them they have to pay for it.

 

Look no further than the recent million college idiot march for proof. We want free college! ...as long as someone else pays for it!

That and many of those that support a fed system are probably the same ones that don't know the details of their own current coverage.

[Tiberius]

Ok, what is your beef with Obamacare?

 

Why do you not like it?

[boyst]

[B-Man]

 

 

That post deserves this response

 

 

please, ban this user. please, ban him and whatever his primary account is.

[unbillievable]

Wait... so Amy Shumar doesn't want single payer healthcare now? I thought she campaigned for it?

[boyst]

 

 

That post deserves this response

 

 

hahah but it is so funny and applicable to todays health system!

[B-Man]

NYT: The Obama Administration Bullied their Own IRS to Violate the Law on Obamacare

 

The New York Times had an astounding article yesterday about the lengths to which the Obama administration went to bully everyone to accept the dubious legality of their massive insurer bailouts; bailouts for which there was absolutely no Congressional appropriation. A Federal judge has already ruled that these payments were illegal, and the administration has appealed – principally on the basis that Congress had no standing to bring the suit, not that the payments themselves were legal.

 

WASHINGTON — On Jan. 13, 2014, a team of

Internal Revenue Service

financial managers piled into government vans and headed to the Old Executive Office Building for what would turn out to be a very unusual meeting.

Upon arrival, the I.R.S. officials, some of whom had expressed doubts that the Obama administration had the proper authority to spend billions of dollars on a crucial element of its

health care law

, were ushered into a conference room.

There, they were presented with an

Office of Management and Budget

memo laying out the administration’s justification for spending $3.9 billion on consumer health insurance subsidies.

They were told they could read it but could not take notes or make copies. The O.M.B. officials left the room to allow their visitors a moment to absorb the document, and then returned to answer a few questions and note that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. had been briefed and signed off on the legal rationale

.

 

 

 

 

Does that sound like an administration that has any level of confidence in what they are doing? Here are the political hacks in the administration basically ordering the technocrats who know what they are doing into a clandestine meeting that’s shrouded with more secrecy than what was on Hillary Clinton’s email server and basically ordering them to accept the Obama interpretation of the law.

 

The really damning part, though, is this:

 

After failing to win congressional approval for the funds, the Obama administration spent the money anyway and has now distributed about $7 billion to insurance companies to offset out-of-pocket costs for eligible consumers. The administration asserts that the health care legislation provided permanent, continuing authority to do so, and that no further appropriation was necessary.

 

 

{snip}

 

This may seem like a fairly small, technical thing, but the constitutional prohibition against spending money that Congress has not appropriated is one of Congress’s most important checks on the executive branch. Especially in the era of the ever-expanding executive, cutting off funds (or just denying funds) is one of the few ways Congress can actively exert its will over a runaway executive. And here, Obama clearly ordered his underlings to just completely trample on this principle.

 

If the Supreme Court ends up saving this program, it will be a bigger injustice and threat to the constitutional system of checks and balances than either of the previous decisions in which it has rewritten the law to save it from itself.

 

 

 

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/05/31/nyt-obama-administration-bulied-irs-violate-law-obamacare/

Edited May 31, 2016 by B-Man

[Alaska Darin]

 

Yep. I wonder if they told people it would cost $13T over 10 years and lead to massive tax increases?

You mean like every half way smart person who thought it was a bad idea? The government doesn't make anything more affordable or accessible. If you want government health care, join the military. You'll see what "free" is all about.

[DC Tom]

You mean like every half way smart person who thought it was a bad idea? The government doesn't make anything more affordable or accessible. If you want government health care, join the military. You'll see what "free" is all about.

 

Or just wait until you turn 65.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/31/news/companies/unitedhealth-obamacare-california/index.html

 

 

Obama: failure on so many levels.

[Azalin]

It was on the local news this morning that Blue Cross & Blue Shield will be doing away with their Obamacare bronze plans next year here in Texas, and that the cost of their other plans will increase 69% in 2017.