billieve420 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Heard Jeremy White on WGR mention that Crossman has been retained. Bad move on Marrone's part the whole accountability spiel is a joke. Edited January 6, 2014 by billieve420
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Heard Jeremy White on WGR mention that Crossman has been retained. Bad move on Marrone's part the whole accountability spiel is a joke. Major loss of Marrone's credibility with regard to accountability as far as I'm concerned.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Coaches don't tackle. Players do. Coaches help players prepare. The Bills STs looked woefully unprepared for anything. ST players are pretty equivalent from team to team. Coaching matters.
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 That's too bad. Marrone is stubborn, we've seen it with players and now with the coaches. It's a bad, bad trait for head coaches (but common) and it's going to get Marrone fired in a year or two, I fear.
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Coaches don't tackle. Players do. So you're saying he should cut all the special teams players instead as the way to correct the horrible ST play?
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Just so we're all on the same page, here's how Danny Crossman's Special Teams units have ranked (according to Football Outsiders) since his first year at the post, 2005: 2005 - Carolina - 5th 2006 - Carolina - 24th 2007 - Carolina - 30th 2008 - Carolina - 10th 2009 - Carolina - 29th 2010 - Detroit - 11th 2011 - Detroit - 29th 2012 - Detroit - 30th 2013 - Buffalo - 30th It's like a complete mystery. Maybe he just needs a certain profile of player to put together a solid unit? I don't know...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 It's like a complete mystery. Maybe he just needs a certain profile of player to put together a solid unit? I don't know... More likely he's one of the people who helped Marrone along the way in his career and he feels indebted to the guy. It's a shame, because it costs us wins and it may ultimately cost Marrone his job.
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 That's too bad. Marrone is stubborn, we've seen it with players and now with the coaches. It's a bad, bad trait for head coaches (but common) and it's going to get Marrone fired in a year or two, I fear. Can't agree with that--stubborn coaches don't cut their starting LG or nickel CB mid-season due to performance. I think stubbornness doesn't fit SOME coaches well; others seem to do just fine though (i.e. Coughlin).
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Just so we're all on the same page, here's how Danny Crossman's Special Teams units have ranked (according to Football Outsiders) since his first year at the post, 2005: 2005 - Carolina - 5th 2006 - Carolina - 24th 2007 - Carolina - 30th 2008 - Carolina - 10th 2009 - Carolina - 29th 2010 - Detroit - 11th 2011 - Detroit - 29th 2012 - Detroit - 30th 2013 - Buffalo - 30th It's like a complete mystery. Maybe he just needs a certain profile of player to put together a solid unit? I don't know... So his best year at his previous two stops was his 1st. Yikes! Edited January 6, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 More likely he's one of the people who helped Marrone along the way in his career and he feels indebted to the guy. It's a shame, because it costs us wins and it may ultimately cost Marrone his job. It's possible; I'll wait and see if maybe Crossman can turn things around with a few of his "key players"
NoSaint Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 It's like a complete mystery. Maybe he just needs a certain profile of player to put together a solid unit? I don't know... how can we hold him not having 6 marcus easleys against him.... its a third of the game, and he should clearly get a third of the roster before judging him just like every other... wait... no other special teams coach ever....
billieve420 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Posted January 6, 2014 Coaches don't tackle. Players do. I think the point most people are making. Crossman hasn't done anything to prove that he is a good coach. There is a pattern of bad special team units run by this guy. He should be accountable just like the players since he had a hand in picking them.
QB Bills Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Prediction: Marrone will go down as a worse coach than any of his predecessors over the last decade-plus of futility. This clueless jock is in way over his head.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 We better see some frickin' DRASTIC improvement in year 2 from this clown's unit. I am beyond skeptical.
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 I think the point most people are making. Crossman hasn't done anything to prove that he is a good coach. There is a pattern of bad special team units run by this guy. He should be accountable just like the players since he had a hand in picking them. It's a fair point; I guess I just don't fault Marrone for giving the guy a chance to right the ship. It's not like an offense or defense in which the coach brings a possibly intricate system that needs to be installed, so if Marrone has to can him after next season and bring in someone else, it won't be a major transition. Prediction: Marrone will go down as a worse coach than any of his predecessors over the last decade-plus of futility. This clueless jock is in way over his head. Ummm...ok.
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