merlin Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 10 Greg Zolman QB 6-2 220 1 - practice squad 18 Drew Haddad WR 5-11 184 2 19 Jonathan Smith RB 5-10 194 R - practice squad 30 Ken Simonton RB 5-9 191 2 35 Joe Burns RB 5-9 215 3 37 Jabari Greer CB 5-11 169 R - practice squad 41 Luke Lawton FB 5-11 237 R - practice squad 42 Gerald Dixon CB 5-10 189 1 - practice squad 57 Josh Stamer LB 6-2 238 2 60 Jasen Esposito OT 6-4 305 1 - practice squad 61 Mike Pucillo G 6-4 311 3 63 C. Ritzmann DE 6-3 254 R - practice squad 92 Jason Gildon LB 6-4 250 11 OR 91 Keith McKenzie DE 6-3 267 9 Add to practice squad (already cut): Jason Peters - TE 6-3 330 R - practice squad
Rico Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 I don't think Greer or Stamer get cut, not sure about Pucillo. Everyone else is in trouble.
Mile High Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 I don't think Greer or Stamer get cut, not sure about Pucillo. Everyone else is in trouble. 16270[/snapback] i think that stamer stays as well he is a great asset to our special teams.
merlin Posted September 2, 2004 Author Posted September 2, 2004 i think that stamer stays as well he is a great asset to our special teams. 16272[/snapback] I admit that I don't know much about Stamer. As far as special teams go, if MM really does continue to use more starters for ST duty (e.g. London Fletcher, Nate Clements, etc), I think there may be less of a reason to keep around too many players for ST only. But if Stamer is really a ST demon/stud, then I agree we should keep him ... in that case, do both Gildon and McKenzie get shown the door? GO BILLS!!
TC in St. Louis Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 I read that Josh Stamer was named Special Teams captain.
stuckincincy Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 FWIW, HC Lewis of cincy is putting more starters on the ST's. I'm beginning to think that clubs, what with rising salaries and cap pressure are losing the ability to afford bench players. Just a thought.
Guest Mularkey Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 10 Greg Zolman QB 6-2 220 1 - practice squad18 Drew Haddad WR 5-11 184 2 19 Jonathan Smith RB 5-10 194 R - practice squad 30 Ken Simonton RB 5-9 191 2 35 Joe Burns RB 5-9 215 3 37 Jabari Greer CB 5-11 169 R - practice squad 41 Luke Lawton FB 5-11 237 R - practice squad 42 Gerald Dixon CB 5-10 189 1 - practice squad 57 Josh Stamer LB 6-2 238 2 60 Jasen Esposito OT 6-4 305 1 - practice squad 61 Mike Pucillo G 6-4 311 3 63 C. Ritzmann DE 6-3 254 R - practice squad 92 Jason Gildon LB 6-4 250 11 OR 91 Keith McKenzie DE 6-3 267 9 Add to practice squad (already cut): Jason Peters - TE 6-3 330 R - practice squad 16250[/snapback] No way are they cutting three RBs...I think a likely choice not listed here is Lavale Sape.
IndyJay1234 Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 No way are they cutting three RBs...I think a likely choice not listed here is Lavale Sape. 16329[/snapback] STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!!
Yoho Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 They had the nerve to cut my man Asa Franics, even after his tremendous fumble recovery for a touchdown in the scrimmage against the Browns. If Asa can go, so can Sape. Nothing is sacred.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 10 Greg Zolman QB 6-2 220 1 - practice squad18 Drew Haddad WR 5-11 184 2 19 Jonathan Smith RB 5-10 194 R - practice squad 30 Ken Simonton RB 5-9 191 2 35 Joe Burns RB 5-9 215 3 37 Jabari Greer CB 5-11 169 R - practice squad 41 Luke Lawton FB 5-11 237 R - practice squad 42 Gerald Dixon CB 5-10 189 1 - practice squad 57 Josh Stamer LB 6-2 238 2 60 Jasen Esposito OT 6-4 305 1 - practice squad 61 Mike Pucillo G 6-4 311 3 63 C. Ritzmann DE 6-3 254 R - practice squad 92 Jason Gildon LB 6-4 250 11 OR 91 Keith McKenzie DE 6-3 267 9 Add to practice squad (already cut): Jason Peters - TE 6-3 330 R - practice squad 16250[/snapback] OK, I think you are about 85% right. I think they do cut the three RBs since Jonathan Farking Smith is WR/RB and Reed and McGee are solid for returns (please make them stop using Clements though). Stamer stays, solid STer. Sape goes, maybe to the PS again. Tonight we see whether Shaud Williams or Simonton goes. Shaud has more upside, Simonton has his skills more honed at this point. I'm not so sure Greer goes either. McFarland gets cut but also gets snapped up for the PS.
/dev/null Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 10 Greg Zolman QB 6-2 220 1 - practice squad18 Drew Haddad WR 5-11 184 2 19 Jonathan Smith RB 5-10 194 R - practice squad 30 Ken Simonton RB 5-9 191 2 35 Joe Burns RB 5-9 215 3 37 Jabari Greer CB 5-11 169 R - practice squad 41 Luke Lawton FB 5-11 237 R - practice squad 42 Gerald Dixon CB 5-10 189 1 - practice squad 57 Josh Stamer LB 6-2 238 2 60 Jasen Esposito OT 6-4 305 1 - practice squad 61 Mike Pucillo G 6-4 311 3 63 C. Ritzmann DE 6-3 254 R - practice squad 92 Jason Gildon LB 6-4 250 11 OR 91 Keith McKenzie DE 6-3 267 9 Add to practice squad (already cut): Jason Peters - TE 6-3 330 R - practice squad 16250[/snapback] Yes: Zolman, Haddad (sorry CL), Fumblin Freddy, Lawton, Dixon, Esposito, Ritzmann, {Gildon | McKenzie} No: Greer (5th CB), Stamer (ST), Simonton (Williams makes PS) Maybe: Burns (sucks, but can double as FB), Pucillo cut at least 1, possibly 2 of DT Bannan, Edwards, Sape cut LS dorenbos injury settlement with travis brown cut TE trafford
JoeF Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 I don't think Sape can go to the PS since he was activated at the end of last year for the final few games. Could be wrong though... Here's my 15 bye-bye's: Justin Bannan-DT - Sape beats him out due to more upside Joe Burns-RB-Coaches like him but injury hurts him--Neufeld is Backup FB Gerald Dixon-DB (PS) Jason Esposito-OT (PS) Jason Gildon-DE Drew Haddad-WR Mario Haggan-LB - believe it or not--this one bothers me the most--loses because Crowell was a 3rd rounder.. Luke Lawton-FB (PS) Mike Pucillo - OG (Tucker and Sobieski take the middle OL back-up spots) Constantin Ritzmann - DE (PS) Marques Sullivan-OT (Price and McFarland are the Back-up Tackles) Fast Freddie Smith - WR/RB/KR (PS) Rod Trafford - TE Shuad Williams - RB (PS) Greg Zolman - QB (PS) Also on PS - Jason Peters, Mike Shafer Also when Milloy is back Pearson Prioleau - FS (Baker beats him out for the Back-up role) We activate Smith from the PS...
TigerJ Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Mine: Joe Burns - FB Gerald Dixon - CB Jasen Esposito - OT Jason Gildon - LB/DE Mario Haggan - LB Luke Lawton - FB (PS) Dylan McFarland - OT (PS) Mike Pucillo - G Constantin Ritzman - DE (PS) Justin Bannan or Lauvale Sape - DT Jonathon Smith - WR/RB (PS) Rod Trafford - TE Shaud Williams -RB (PS) Greg Zolman -QB (PS) Additional PS member: Jason Peters If Milloy is deemed likely able to play then Prioleau will be cut and Luke Lawton or Joe Burns retained
Typical TBD Guy Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Here's my 15: QB Greg Zolman RB Shaud Williams – PS FB Luke Lawton – PS WR Jonathan Smith – PS WR Drew Haddad TE Rod Trafford T Dylan McFarland – PS T Jasen Esposito G Ben Sobieski* – PS DT Lauvale Sape* – PS DE Constantin Ritzmann OLB Josh Stamer CB Gerald Dixon CB Jabari Greer** – PS FS Rashad Baker – PS * - I'm pretty sure both Sape and Sobieski are eligible for the PS because both weren't a part of the active 45 man roster in enough games last season ** - Prioleau can be our 5th CB until Travis Brown gets healthy. Once he's healthy, Mathews gets cut and Greer moves back onto the 53 man roster
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