GA BILLS FAN Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Mike Schopp is an idiot --- on tirade now saying you can't coach turnovers --- really ?? --- didn't Tom Couglin coach Tiki how to hold onto the ball ? --- didn't Pettine coach Bills on attacking ball in secondary, 2nd in league in INT's --- we need new Buffalo media that actually know football so they can respectfully but directly confront and challenge the Bills FO --- this putz Schopp doesn't know a 1-gap vs. 2-gap assignment or weakside vs. strongside and he gets all the access to these guys --- no wonder Brandon isn't challenged --- the guys in the room are drones
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Exactly. It's an excuse we should all put to rest. As for STs, if a team has many weapons on STs, then they must really suck on offense and/or defense or they are exercising poor judgement in playing their stars on ST. They don't need weapons, they need good coaching/discipline. Agreed. ST's require guys who hustle, are smart, and are disciplined. You don't need 4 or 5 "core" guys.
Reed83HOF Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 why was going into the year going to be difficult? didnt we keep a stacked group of returners, easley played very well, hogan was seemingly kept for his ST ability according to many around here... we suffered an injury at kicker and ended up with a great situation there. punter was a bit rocky.... but generally, how much more did he need to get his job done? especially if we are publicly saying we want to keep moorman. I think that last year our STs were pretty good... Said Easley was a core ST'r and we need 6 more of them...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 By the posts here, Crossman doesn't look like he's going anywhere. Looks like he needs more "weapons". Lol. It never ends. Coaching special teams is about motivation and putting your players in position to succeed. The want-to hasn't seemed to be there from most of those players and the second long kickoff return by Blount was a prime example of a bad call by a ST coach. You simply kick that ball low and force the up-men or Blount to field a bounding ball. Crossman just isn't a good NFL special teams coach.
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I think that last year our STs were pretty good... Said Easley was a core ST'r and we need 6 more of them... i saw the "need 6 more of him" comment but thats a bit ridiculous. 1 of those core guys needs to be the coordinator.
dave mcbride Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Targeting special teams "talent"??? Gimme a break. ST is ALL about coaching - it's your roster bottom feeders against the opponent's roster bottom feeders. There are no stars. If guys are in position and know what to do, they'll be fine. For example, the Pats. Edited December 30, 2013 by dave mcbride
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Coaching special teams is about motivation and putting your players in position to succeed. The want-to hasn't seemed to be there from most of those players and the second long kickoff return by Blount was a prime example of a bad call by a ST coach. You simply kick that ball low and force the up-men or Blount to field a bounding ball. Crossman just isn't a good NFL special teams coach. crossman has made good units bad everywhere hes been. every year hes coached his units rankings have gone down the following year, i believe.
Reed83HOF Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 i saw the "need 6 more of him" comment but thats a bit ridiculous. 1 of those core guys needs to be the coordinator. I totally agree. He was straight up asked if Crossman was staying, said it would be evaluated....
Big Turk Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I think that last year our STs were pretty good... Said Easley was a core ST'r and we need 6 more of them... Yup, top ten pretty much across the board under DeHaven
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Crossman just isn't a good NFL special teams coach. He wasn't before he came here either. But he's friends with Marrone, so he gets excuses made for him. I'm guessing Ike made a pass at Marrone's wife or something.
NFL95MelGrayDomination Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 By the posts here, Crossman doesn't look like he's going anywhere. Looks like he needs more "weapons". Lol. It never ends. Agreed. What an unaccountable franchise. Embarrassing they are keeping Crossman.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Agreed. What an unaccountable franchise. Embarrassing they are keeping Crossman... for the 24 hours since the regular season ended. That is all we are at right now. Pull your panties out of your crack.
BringBackFergy Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 always do it that way. All my training camp updates too. Thanks. One of these years I'm gonna start a "Buy Mrags a laptop for future updates" fund. Do you accept bit coin??
Fan in Chicago Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Jay Skurski @JaySkurski 6m Marrone stops short of saying Danny Crossman will return: "We'll evaluate everything." Jay Skurski @JaySkurski 4m Russ Brandon says the Bills remain in evaluation mode on the Toronto series. Wants 6 more core ST players like Easley Good job, Reed83. Hope they end the Toronto fiasco. Jay Skurski @JaySkurski 9s Doug Whaley says he was "taken aback" by the question regarding Stevie Johnson's future with the team, maintains the team is behind him. I am taken aback that Whaley is taken aback. Is he serious about there being no questions regarding his competency as a #1 WR and his position on the team ? By the posts here, Crossman doesn't look like he's going anywhere. Looks like he needs more "weapons". Lol. It never ends. Maybe from the posts here, but I don't think there was anything in the presser to imply that he is returning. You don't need 4 or 5 "core" guys. Agree. Also, I don't think any team can afford so many core STers without compromising on other key areas in O and D.
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Mike Schopp is an idiot --- on tirade now saying you can't coach turnovers --- really ?? --- didn't Tom Couglin coach Tiki how to hold onto the ball ? --- didn't Pettine coach Bills on attacking ball in secondary, 2nd in league in INT's --- we need new Buffalo media that actually know football so they can respectfully but directly confront and challenge the Bills FO --- this putz Schopp doesn't know a 1-gap vs. 2-gap assignment or weakside vs. strongside and he gets all the access to these guys --- no wonder Brandon isn't challenged --- the guys in the room are drones I concur! A caller to his show tried to tell him how Cam Newton and Russell Wilson benefited from having excellent defenses. Schoop shot him down and said that Newton and Wilson's teams were winning because they have "great" QB play. Really? How "great" was Cam last year/earlier in the season. He had some good statistical games, but his team's still lost. Schoop can say what he wants about how he's not impressed with Manuel, but if he really paid attention to the "young" man he should be able to see he has the "clutch" factor in him. Whenever his teams were down in certain situations EJ produced. Do I have to mention the Panthers game? Or the first meeting with the Pats? And lately the Falcons game! Like I've been saying all year long, continue building a dominating defense against both the run and pass and keep Manuel healthy you will see a playoff team in Buffalo!
papazoid Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 We're on the island of misfit fans Here we don't want to stay
Campy Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 It was a season-ending press conference, they are going to be as non-committal as possible. What did some of you really expect? Do you want them to start blabbering on emotionally and start firing coaches and releasing players via a press conference or would you rather they are measured in their responses and actions?
thewildrabbit Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Crossman needed to go asap just like the punter they booted during the season. I can see this as a George Edwards type move to give Marrone's buddy another year of sucking.
IronyAbounds Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Well, I guess somebody has to reshuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic. Taken aback about questions regarding SJ; Crossman not fired on Black Monday; Moorman coming back; EJ already annointed starting QB. Blithering idiots, the lot of them, just a terrible organization. If either Hackett or Crossman are still on the staff next season Marrone should be instantly fired.
mjt328 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Exactly. It's an excuse we should all put to rest. As for STs, if a team has many weapons on STs, then they must really suck on offense and/or defense or they are exercising poor judgement in playing their stars on ST. They don't need weapons, they need good coaching/discipline. Yep. Most ST coaches get their say on kicker, punter, long snapper, returner... The coverage units are leftover backups. All we need out of special teams is to not give up a big return. That requires guys staying in their lanes and not missing tackles. We don't need "weapons."
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