HOF4LOU Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 This article has Buffalo drafting Mack in Rd 1. That would be cool...assuming no qb's are left on the board. Would be a shame if Buffalo passes on another Buffalo boy who is an all star. Here's the link http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/2014-nfl-draft-report-full-mock-draft-no-191857938--nfl.html
808 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 you think they'd go QB again this year in round one? i can't see that happening
Max997 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 People really need to get the thought of taking a QB in round 1 next year out of their heads bc there is zero chance of that happening
BuffaloRebound Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 People really need to get the thought of taking a QB in round 1 next year out of their heads bc there is zero chance of that happening You're probably right, but I don't think Manuel's injuries can be over-looked. Marrone seems like a no-nonsense kind of guy. Don't think he's gonna waste another year on poor QB play and injuries at that position. Don't think we maneuver to get one, but if one of the top QB's is there in Round 1, I don't think we hesitate to pull the trigger.
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 You're probably right, but I don't think Manuel's injuries can be over-looked. Marrone seems like a no-nonsense kind of guy. Don't think he's gonna waste another year on poor QB play and injuries at that position. Don't think we maneuver to get one, but if one of the top QB's is there in Round 1, I don't think we hesitate to pull the trigger. People forget that the plan this year was to start a veteran and bring EJ along. Too bad we picked the veteran with a glass vag. I still think we need a veteran QB that has started and succeeded elsewhere and would be a solid starter if needed (Schaub).
NewEra Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) you think they'd go QB again this year in round one? i can't see that happening They should. People forget that the plan this year was to start a veteran and bring EJ along. Too bad we picked the veteran with a glass vag. I still think we need a veteran QB that has started and succeeded elsewhere and would be a solid starter if needed (Schaub). And the rookie with the glass knee Edited December 20, 2013 by NewEra
Kirby Jackson Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 I don't think that EJ is the answer but I don't think that they will be drafting a QB either. My ideal draft would be Mack in the 1st, somehow Kelvin Benjamin in the 2nd, best guard & TE in the 3rd & 4th, QB prospect in the 5th, CB in the 6th and a OL prospect in the 7th. Not a likely scenario but one can hope.
sir andrew Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 I'd say they either go mack or OT in the first.
Prickly Pete Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 I'd say they either go mack or OT in the first. Where have they indicated or implied dissatisfaction with the play of the tackles?
thebandit27 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 And the rookie with the glass knee So tell me, who has an "iron knee"? I swear people on this board...
The Big Cat Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Thad Lewis has an opportunity to shush all QB talk this weekend.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 You're probably right, but I don't think Manuel's injuries can be over-looked. Marrone seems like a no-nonsense kind of guy. Don't think he's gonna waste another year on poor QB play and injuries at that position. Don't think we maneuver to get one, but if one of the top QB's is there in Round 1, I don't think we hesitate to pull the trigger. Marrone loves EJ. He would look like an idiot if he drafted another QB in hte 1st the year after drafting EJ. As for Mack, he's a beast and I'd have zero problem with him. But this does seem high for a LB and seems like a very lazy way to make a prediction (he went to college in Buffalo so the Bills will draft him!).
bigK14094 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Thad Lewis has an opportunity to shush all QB talk this weekend. Thad is a free agent after the season, with four starts this year. He will draw attention on the market. Bills wil need to show him the money, or he will be gone. Not Byrd kind of money, but top backup kind of money. And, if somebody else thinks he is a starter, he will be gone, as starter money will not come from the Bills. so, the bills still have a QB problem......
KOKBILLS Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Thad is a free agent after the season, with four starts this year. He will draw attention on the market. Bills wil need to show him the money, or he will be gone. Not Byrd kind of money, but top backup kind of money. And, if somebody else thinks he is a starter, he will be gone, as starter money will not come from the Bills. so, the bills still have a QB problem...... The line for Lewis will be short...He's an ideal 3rd string QB for most teams because he can run the scout team well especially if you're preparing for a mobile QB...And he's a smart kid...He may be a decent back-up for a few other needy teams...That's about it...He's not going to command much in Free Agency...No team is going to view him as a potential starter...You can't sell Thad Lewis to any NFL fan base...
1B4IDie Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Thad Lewis has an opportunity to shush all QB talk this weekend. How so? If he beats the Dolphins again in a game that is very meaningful for the AFC all that is going to do is stir the pot. But maybe your point is if he looks like crap then it gets shushed? I don't know. I don't predict any shushing anytime soon. The line for Lewis will be short...He's an ideal 3rd string QB for most teams because he can run the scout team well especially if you're preparing for a mobile QB...And he's a smart kid...He may be a decent back-up for a few other needy teams...That's about it...He's not going to command much in Free Agency...No team is going to view him as a potential starter...You can't sell Thad Lewis to any NFL fan base... If Thad Lewis plays well again on Sunday. I think teams will view him as a solid #2. Not a scout QB. He is a great clipboard holder for a team with a solid starter. He is smart and knows the game according to Cutcliff so he can add a view that an established starter may be able to leverage. And if the starter goes down the team can feel slightly uncomfortable. As opposed to totally screwed like GB was. He won't get top tier backup money but there will be a market for him.
thebandit27 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 How so? If he beats the Dolphins again in a game that is very meaningful for the AFC all that is going to do is stir the pot. But maybe your point is if he looks like crap then it gets shushed? I don't know. I don't predict any shushing anytime soon. If Thad Lewis plays well again on Sunday. I think teams will view him as a solid #2. Not a scout QB. He is a great clipboard holder for a team with a solid starter. He is smart and knows the game according to Cutcliff so he can add a view that an established starter may be able to leverage. And if the starter goes down the team can feel slightly uncomfortable. As opposed to totally screwed like GB was. He won't get top tier backup money but there will be a market for him. I think his point is that if Thad plays well he'll put some pause to the idea that the team needs to draft another QB to compete with/back-up EJ...I can see why some folks would have that opinion--I myself do not share it.
San-O Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 People really need to get the thought of taking a QB in round 1 next year out of their heads bc there is zero chance of that happening Then, we can forget about the playoffs for another couple years. Manuel isn't the guy. Marrone loves EJ. He would look like an idiot if he drafted another QB in hte 1st the year after drafting EJ. As for Mack, he's a beast and I'd have zero problem with him. But this does seem high for a LB and seems like a very lazy way to make a prediction (he went to college in Buffalo so the Bills will draft him!). I don't understand why teams can draft any player they want in higher rounds in consecutive years, but not a QB?
thebandit27 Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Manuel isn't the guy. In your opinion...I think that's extremely important to remember when discussing topics like this...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Thad Lewis has an opportunity to shush all QB talk this weekend. Wally Pipp had Lou Gherig Trend Downwards had Ryan Fitzmagic maybe EJ has Thad? Stranger things have happened. In the end.........they need to get another potential franchise QB in the mix here. Relative to what's expected of a young QB in the NFL today......EJ has not been impressive. Thad looks like a future Fitzpatrick-esque limited reserve QB. That's not enough. Talent is wasting here. Mack is a nice prospect but the franchise impact of having even just a *good* QB is greater than an NFL DPOY candidate. QB's control the game. And if you get very lucky.......and teams do........you get a franchise altering QB. They don't call Lucas Oil Stadium "The House that Freeney Built".
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Then, we can forget about the playoffs for another couple years. Manuel isn't the guy. I don't understand why teams can draft any player they want in higher rounds in consecutive years, but not a QB? They CAN. They just don't. You build a team around a QB. More importantly, QB is the single hardest position to play in the NFL and the hardest to transition from college. And there is only one on the field and typically teams only carry 2 active. So to spend 1 st rd pick two years in a row on the same position before you know whether the 1st one is the guy you want running the show long term, and when you have other needs you need to address,doesn't make a ton of sense to most front offices. It takes more than one season for a QB to show what he can be as an NFL QB. That goes for guys who are bad their rookie year, guys who are great their rookie year, and guys who are average. Bradford looked really good his rookie year and then regressed. Same with RG3 - they were both ROY. Tannehill is a guy who has improved significantly in his second year. Roethlisberger and Eli Manning both made huge strides in 2nd and 3rd year. The second (and third, if teams will wait that long) is the year to really evaluate. Sime guys regress as teams figure out how to defend them with some film (i.e. Geno's 1st half of the year vs. his 2nd). That doesn't mean a team won't bring in other QBs - later round guys, FAs, that they like. But 1st and 2nd rd is for players who are going to start on your team, hopefully. Only 1 QB can start at a time. I know people want to argue they already know EJ should not be that guy and list all the reasons why. But coaches and NFL personnel guys do not think the same way as fans. EJ is under a 1st rd contract. Sure, the $ isn't what it used to be. But they don't want 2 QBs eating up 2 first rd contracts when they have other guys the need to keep. Edited December 20, 2013 by YoloInTheBlo
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