John in Jax Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think it helps to be 6'5", when you play QB in the NFL! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 There are a couple of guys who post on here who have so much man love for EJ, it really makes me wonder WTF? Are you guys watching the same games that I watch? Because that was NOT good quarterbacking play today. Hate to break it to you. It was better than his last performance, yes. Was it good? No. As other people mentioned earlier in this thread, this guy had some passes caught that most receivers would have dropped – 2 passes to Woods come to mind……2 times Woods went and got the ball with his fingertips. Other receivers on this team would have tipped those passes to the defense. EJ very, very rarely hits receivers in stride which is why you don’t see much run after the catch out of this team. He ran recklessly with the ball dangling out to his side and had a sack fumble that cost the Bills points. This was pointed out as being one of his major faults right after he was drafted. And obviously he still does it. And if you are going to judge EJ based on his stats as you stat lovers so much love to do here, then you can’t drop his bad games or bad drives or bad plays from the stats. You have to count all his stats. The only reason EJ gets a break is because he is a rookie. Next year, if he plays like that, more and more fans are going to call for his head. I am glad the Bills won and I want them to win every game no matter who is QB or what our draft prospects are going to be. Just win. The Bills won today and they won on the road. That gives me some hope that they are going to get better. But the play of the QB today was nothing to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Carpenter from 40 to end the half....it's Good! Oh, and to answer an earlier question: yeah, the stadium was only about half full all day. Personally, I think it's absolutely idiotic for all these people who had a ticket (game was sold out) but didn't go, to not give that ticket away to someone who would have gone....makes no sense. Edited December 16, 2013 by John in Jax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Manziel Bridgewater McCarron Carr Bortles Could all conceivably go in the first round. Better than EJ & Geno in 2013. I want insurance... Another top pick chomping @ the bit... Especially a guy like Manziel to light a fire. I think you are way too negative on EJ. That being said, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of drafting another QB, even at 1. IMHO, having a franchise QB is exponentially more impt than anything else. If the FO isn't sold on EJ, they then have an obligation to do what they can to get that guy. What they can't do is hitch their wagon to EJ soley because they don't want to look bad. It's a tough call. Glad I'm not an NFL GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) What's crawled up your ass? People cant share nice pics? Nothing! The pics are great. But this is an EJ thread and how he played... Of course, the tie-in will come if he is our franchise Qb! RJ/JP/Trent all had games like EJ had. I hope EJ isn't a bust... But how many years do we have to endure these projects? Bills haven't been to the playoff since the 1990's! And once again, the Polllyanna's are lining up @ the door and saying: "give it time!" How many times have we heard this? EJ stunk up the field last week before my own eyes. I know he is a rookie... But come on... I guess something did crawl up my azz... 14 years of futility hitching the Qb position to the same old, same old! I think you are way too negative on EJ. That being said, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of drafting another QB, even at 1. IMHO, having a franchise QB is exponentially more impt than anything else. If the FO isn't sold on EJ, they then have an obligation to do what they can to get that guy. What they can't do is hitch their wagon to EJ soley because they don't want to look bad. It's a tough call. Glad I'm not an NFL GM. Fair enough... I still say get another big name in there so EJ and the new dude will be looking over their shoulder! It is the only thing left? When was the last time that happened... Oh yeah, with Dougie & RJ... Wait, that's the last time the Bills sniffed the playoffs... Outside of Bledsoe's coin toss debacle against the Pitt scrubs! Edited December 16, 2013 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Back on topic....EJ played just average in my mind....some good, some bad. The INT on the screen pass could have been a backbreaker, but then EJ hustled back and made the tackle. And yes, as I stated earlier in this very thread, there were a bunch of passes which were slightly off target, and the receivers made great catches. The FOUR turnovers by the Jags certainly played prominently into the Bills winning this game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 As other people mentioned earlier in this thread, this guy had some passes caught that most receivers would have dropped – 2 passes to Woods come to mind……2 times Woods went and got the ball with his fingertips. Other receivers on this team would have tipped those passes to the defense. EJ very, very rarely hits receivers in stride which is why you don’t see much run after the catch out of this team. He ran recklessly with the ball dangling out to his side and had a sack fumble that cost the Bills points. This was pointed out as being one of his major faults right after he was drafted. And obviously he still does it. The only reason EJ gets a break is because he is a rookie. Next year, if he plays like that, more and more fans are going to call for his head. ^^ This. I like stats as much as the next guy, but While he may have went 17 for 20 193 yards and a rating of 105.0; my eyes tell me he didn't play that good.... He very rarely hits any WR in stride; the WR has to leap and make a miraculous catch, he stares WRs down; is somewhat reckless with the ball when running...and he has been like this all season. Am I glad we won - meh. Honestly the higher the draft choice the better of we will be - we are stuck in this drafting at 11 for like the past 14 years. Not bad enough to grab a true impact player and are always left with the blah group of players and we always choose wrong.The stench of losing still reeks in the franchise and the more skilled players we can get the better of we will be. I am not a troll; had season ticks for a decade and followed them since I was little kid in the early 80s. I want this team to win and turn it around.... EJ is far from a sure thing and honestly I am sick of the reclamation projects at QB and the thought that we can coach them up. The last real coach we had was LeBeau for lost season and before that was Wade. We don't bring the right coaches in to coach a kid up and honestly; how often does that really happen? EJ has to get better in hurry and start hitting his players in stride and not expecting them to make a miraculous catch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What is your point? Besides that there looks to be more Bills fans in the crowd for a ROAD game in JAX. Wow, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Carpenter from 40 to end the half....it's Good! Oh, and to answer an earlier question: yeah, the stadium was only about half full all day. Personally, I think it's absolutely idiotic for all these people who had a ticket (game was sold out) but didn't go, to not give that ticket away to someone who would have gone....makes no sense. So now people are buying tix and not going... Last time I was in JAX, they had the upper decks tarped. Do they still do that? Last week in Tampa, it looked like almost half Bills fans! First time I was in an away stadium and felt @ home!! Edited December 16, 2013 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Wow, just wow. LoL... I see what you've done Rob! You gotta stop it! You are being "that guy." ;-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Nothing! The pics are great. But this is an EJ thread and how he played... Of course, the tie-in will come if he is our franchise Qb! RJ/JP/Trent all had games like EJ had. I hope EJ isn't a bust... But how many years do we have to endure these projects? Bills haven't been to the playoff since the 1990's! And once again, the Polllyanna's are lining up @ the door and saying: "give it time!" How many times have we heard this? EJ stunk up the field last week before my own eyes. I know he is a rookie... But come on... I guess something did crawl up my azz... 14 years of futility hitching the Qb position to the same old, same old! Fair enough... I still say get another big name in there so EJ and the new dude will be looking over their shoulder! It is the only thing left? When was the last time that happened... Oh yeah, with Dougie & RJ... Wait, that's the last time the Bills sniffed the playoffs... Outside of Bledsoe's coin toss debacle against the Pitt scrubs! Manziel is too small to last - Dont see the others as clearly better than EJ. FWIW EJ was ALWAYS a project - and he is pretty much exactly as ordered. Despite that aspect that your patience is worn out.....aint gonna change the picture. Cant see the Bills using a1-3 rounder on a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) MDFan, on 15 December 2013 - 05:14 PM, said: I hope you are kidding. I would hate to think the alternative. No, I was not kidding. Not at all. Well losers lose, U hoping our football team will lose, is a loser mentality! LOSER! We're you expecting any thing less for playing one of if not THE crappiest team in the NFL ?? Now if he does that against Atlanta, New England, & others then there is something to celebrate but common man the Jags suck worse than we do !! If he didn't look that good then there would be something to worry about ! And he should worry more about his play than celebration dance !!! You do realize TB and Atlanta have the same record??????????????? Also the Bills are near the bottom of the league with Atlanta n Jax. So i dont get what u wrote! Edited December 16, 2013 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Manziel - size and maturity questions Bridgewater - questions about competition level McCarron - questions about whether it is him or the talent around him. Carr - really? Borles- questions about experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think it helps to be 6'5", when you play QB in the NFL! LOL Seven blockers, three rushers...and two of the rushers have a free and clear shot to the QB. And then what do the pass rushers do? Swan Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) There are a couple of guys who post on here who have so much man love for EJ, it really makes me wonder WTF? Are you guys watching the same games that I watch? Because that was NOT good quarterbacking play today. Hate to break it to you. It was better than his last performance, yes. Was it good? No. As other people mentioned earlier in this thread, this guy had some passes caught that most receivers would have dropped – 2 passes to Woods come to mind……2 times Woods went and got the ball with his fingertips. Other receivers on this team would have tipped those passes to the defense. EJ very, very rarely hits receivers in stride which is why you don’t see much run after the catch out of this team. He ran recklessly with the ball dangling out to his side and had a sack fumble that cost the Bills points. This was pointed out as being one of his major faults right after he was drafted. And obviously he still does it. And if you are going to judge EJ based on his stats as you stat lovers so much love to do here, then you can’t drop his bad games or bad drives or bad plays from the stats. You have to count all his stats. The only reason EJ gets a break is because he is a rookie. Next year, if he plays like that, more and more fans are going to call for his head. I am glad the Bills won and I want them to win every game no matter who is QB or what our draft prospects are going to be. Just win. The Bills won today and they won on the road. That gives me some hope that they are going to get better. But the play of the QB today was nothing to be proud of. Thanks for being brave Dave! I want him to succeed badly... But come on, are people really watching? Edited December 16, 2013 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So now people are buying tix and not going... Last time I was in JAX, they had the upper decks tarped. Do they still do that? Yep....4 sections in the upper deck, and even one section in the lower bowl, at the north endzone, as seen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yep....4 sections in the upper deck, and even one section in the lower bowl, at the north endzone, as seen here. Great pics by the way! Very pathetic about the tarps... One time I went to a early in the year game in JAX and people were dropping like flies from the heat... Oh my! @ first I thought it was the both teams product on the field! ;-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In his first career start, he threw 2 tds, 0 ints & left the field with the lead against NE. He helped us score 31 points against Atlanta and was leading 2 game winning drives before fumbles. He helped beAt the defending SB champs. But all people do is talk about the bad games or try to diminish when he does something good. I agrre! Also he has been injured and missed TC time as well as some of the regular season. So he is coming along, just not as fast as people would want. A lot of people on here complain about Hacket and how terrible he is, but the same people also think EJ should b cut with Hackett ( not my opinion) If our OC is so terrible than EJ is looking more and more like a good QB. A rookie with a "terrible" OC and he still is playing pretty good for a ROOK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Always cracks me up when people say things like this. 53 guys fighting for jobs and coaching staffs trying to prove themselves = trying to win every game. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Seriously, this lose out for better draft position thing is laughable. It's kitty BS. I wouldn't want to be part of any team that lost on purpose much less a fan of such a team. It's a loser mentality and B****made. Bunch of kittens who root to lose should go find another team to "root" for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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