Koko78 Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 As soon as he heard the first of five gunshots, that officer and the two school administrators he was talking to raced toward the commotion shouting their presence and ordering students and staff to follow the school’s lock-down protocol. As a result, Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson said at a briefing Saturday afternoon, the heavily-armed shooter realized he was about to be confronted by an armed officer, and he took his own life. http://news.yahoo.com/colorado-school-shooting-armed-guards-answer-014500823.html Let's keep banning firearms and keep armed security away from kids, though.
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 http://news.yahoo.co...-014500823.html Let's keep banning firearms and keep armed security away from kids, though. Some of the stupidest people I have met in my life were County Sheriffs. I am not talking about Deputies, I am talking about Sheriffs. They have such a micromanaged brain convoluted in stupidity that they do not look at the world rationally with a constitutional basis. So, !@#$ this guy.
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 I haven't quite understood the people who get all worked up about the 'armed security guards' concept. We already have them in every community, they're called police officers. It would seem a logical move to put them in the areas with the highest concentration of the most vulnerable people.
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 I haven't quite understood the people who get all worked up about the 'armed security guards' concept. We already have them in every community, they're called police officers. It would seem a logical move to put them in the areas with the highest concentration of the most vulnerable people. It makes a great idea and seems very practical, but what happens when you bring a gun to a gun fight? Why do we need armed police officers? Why not just get armed teachers? Police and teachers are people, too. They're prone to mistakes and it takes a special type of person to be confronted with a teenager and not pull the trigger when he mouths off at you. We didn't need teachers or police officers with guns 20 years ago and we do not need them now. At the most, give them tazers. How could you stop from shooting a kid like this:
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 I haven't quite understood the people who get all worked up about the 'armed security guards' concept. We already have them in every community, they're called police officers. It would seem a logical move to put them in the areas with the highest concentration of the most vulnerable people. I actually agree with this 100%
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 I actually agree with this 100% If you ended up shot down in a school, I think it'd be a funny joke. I mean, like laugh-o-rama.
Koko78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) It makes a great idea and seems very practical, but what happens when you bring a gun to a gun fight? Why do we need armed police officers? Why not just get armed teachers? Police and teachers are people, too. They're prone to mistakes and it takes a special type of person to be confronted with a teenager and not pull the trigger when he mouths off at you. We didn't need teachers or police officers with guns 20 years ago and we do not need them now. At the most, give them tazers. I'd rather have people trained to handle dangerous situations who are there specifically to handle security, not give random teachers sidearms after a two week 'don't stick your dick in an electrical socket'-type course. But that's me. Unfortunately people will continue to attack the most vulnerable segment of our society because they can. These whiny douchebags aren't going to go after an armed police station because they were 'bullied', they're going to go after those whom they believe they can inflict the most pain on. Edited December 15, 2013 by Koko78
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 I'd rather have people trained to handle dangerous situations who are there specifically to handle security, not give random teachers sidearms after a two week 'don't stick your dick in an electrical socket'-type course. But that's me. Unfortunately people will continue to attack the most vulnerable segment of our society because they can. These whiny douchebags aren't going to go after an armed police station because they were 'bullied', they're going to go after those whom they believe they can inflict the most pain on. So, chicken or the egg? Do we work on fixing the bullying situation or do we only stop the bullied turn bully?
Koko78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 So, chicken or the egg? Do we work on fixing the bullying situation or do we only stop the bullied turn bully? You don't 'fix' bullying. Kids are mean nasty jerks, always have been and always will - there's only so much that schools can do. The overreaction/hysterics we see do not help do anything but sensationalize the bullies. Parents need to stop telling every kid they're special, stop demanding that everyone gets trophies just for showing up and teach their kids to toughen up and find a way to handle their business (without going postal) instead of entitled nonsense.
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 You don't 'fix' bullying. Kids are mean nasty jerks, always have been and always will - there's only so much that schools can do. The overreaction/hysterics we see do not help do anything but sensationalize the bullies. Parents need to stop telling every kid they're special, stop demanding that everyone gets trophies just for showing up and teach their kids to toughen up and find a way to handle their business (without going postal) instead of entitled nonsense. ah, so its the parents. Not the guns. Got it
Koko78 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Posted December 15, 2013 ah, so its the parents. Not the guns. Got it Probably not.
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Probably not. Agree or disagree to agree. It's hardly relevant, but you are saying that the parents need to teach their kids not to go "postal" while blaming the parents for the very reason that the kids are going postal. There is no difference between acting out with fists or bullets.
KD in CA Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 It makes a great idea and seems very practical, but what happens when you bring a gun to a gun fight? Why do we need armed police officers? Why not just get armed teachers? Police and teachers are people, too. People who are trained to do vastly different things. Arming a teacher is a substitute for a police officer? That makes less than no sense. If you ended up shot down in a school, I think it'd be a funny joke. I mean, like laugh-o-rama. Yeah, it works much better if you have a demented high school kid shooting at unarmed teenagers or children instead of worrying about getting shot by a cop. Did EII in a hold of your login info?
keepthefaith Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 We have had armed policeman in our suburban Chicago district schools since about 2002. You'll find that nearly 100% of parents support it.
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 People who are trained to do vastly different things. Arming a teacher is a substitute for a police officer? That makes less than no sense. Yeah, it works much better if you have a demented high school kid shooting at unarmed teenagers or children instead of worrying about getting shot by a cop. Did EII in a hold of your login info? Bad things are going to happen, regardless. Name-calling, shoving and punching or bullets; the fact remains the same that it doesn't solve the problem by simply putting armed police officers in the schools. Spend a few minutes getting in touch with today's youth: www.reddit.com www.9gag.com www.worldstarhiphop.com www.4chan.org/b Reddit is what you already are used to, but look around and see where the 12-20 year olds are frequenting. 9gag is the 9-17 crowd of lewd jokes, and a Famliy Guy type of comedy WorldStarHipHop is a collection of teens to adults who post all things violent, sexual and most things that are still on the right side of legal. 4chan is not the bottom of the internet, but it is the basement you can find easily. Most content there is legal, but a lot of it is not. Spend 15 minutes there and you will see everything that exists on the internet and all of it made a joke and humorous. You will see children lit on fire and shot in the head, puppies thrown in rivers, rape, all types of porn, and various forms of harassment that fall over to the real world. 4chan's /b is the most popular English speaking image based forum on the internet with a common audience between 15 and 22. Kids just do not care about life or death any more. There are plenty that would blow themselves up just to beat Cho's high score, as it is referred.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 If you ended up shot down in a school, I think it'd be a funny joke. I mean, like laugh-o-rama. Oh ya, Joyboy, would ya?
boyst Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Oh ya, Joyboy, would ya? yes, because the irony. You see, no one would care. It would be unfortunate. It would not be like Newtown or any of the other shootings. You wouldn't be used as fuel for a political goal. You would not be anything but a shooting victim at a school; which there are plenty of ALL of the time that we do not ever hear about. We only hear about the stories that make good political fuel.
DC Tom Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Oh ya, Joyboy, would ya? What difference does it make?
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 yes, because the irony. You see, no one would care. It would be unfortunate. It would not be like Newtown or any of the other shootings. You wouldn't be used as fuel for a political goal. You would not be anything but a shooting victim at a school; which there are plenty of ALL of the time that we do not ever hear about. We only hear about the stories that make good political fuel. Is it frustrating being so stupid? Seems like you are frustrated, and I know you are stupid, so maybe there is a link?
keepthefaith Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Bad things are going to happen, regardless. Name-calling, shoving and punching or bullets; the fact remains the same that it doesn't solve the problem by simply putting armed police officers in the schools. Spend a few minutes getting in touch with today's youth: www.reddit.com www.9gag.com www.worldstarhiphop.com www.4chan.org/b Reddit is what you already are used to, but look around and see where the 12-20 year olds are frequenting. 9gag is the 9-17 crowd of lewd jokes, and a Famliy Guy type of comedy WorldStarHipHop is a collection of teens to adults who post all things violent, sexual and most things that are still on the right side of legal. 4chan is not the bottom of the internet, but it is the basement you can find easily. Most content there is legal, but a lot of it is not. Spend 15 minutes there and you will see everything that exists on the internet and all of it made a joke and humorous. You will see children lit on fire and shot in the head, puppies thrown in rivers, rape, all types of porn, and various forms of harassment that fall over to the real world. 4chan's /b is the most popular English speaking image based forum on the internet with a common audience between 15 and 22. Kids just do not care about life or death any more. There are plenty that would blow themselves up just to beat Cho's high score, as it is referred. So parenting would make a difference, wouldn't it. Rest assured, armed guards in schools is a BIG deterrent.
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