bananathumb Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 He makes way too much to justify another year and has proven you cannot count on him in the clutch. CU later.
RyanC883 Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Andre Johnson, with his age and injury history? I guess like everything it depends on the price. My top priority in terms of spending would be to keep Byrd. Johnson's injury history does scare me, but he'd be a good 1-2 year gap while Woods, Goodwin and our draft pick develop.
luckywarriors Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I would not like his leadership rubbing off on my younger guys. So for leadership I disagree. He needs to go period I do not think he could be traded for a 4th I am thinking 5th round maybe?
Rob's House Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 It would hinge on the degree to which he's a bad influence to the other players and what the compensation is. He's not clutch, but the guy can get open seemingly at will. He's also the closest thing to a security blanket EJ has right now.
KollegeStudnet Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 SJ13 is not a WR1....but, he is a decent WR2
Bufcomments Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I voted him to stay.... that said is wish they throw to Woods and Goodwin a bit more.
bmur66 Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Don't laugh. Can anyone really see the Bills winning the Super Bowl with Stevie Johnson as a reciever?
cvanvol Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Don't laugh. Can anyone really see the Bills winning the Super Bowl with Stevie Johnson as a reciever? Could you see them winning one with Andre Reed as a receiver? Could you see the patriots winning one with Troy Brown as their number one receiver? How many of the uber elite receivers have won a championship in the last 15 years? So I guess I would say yes I can imagine that because it doesnt take an elite WR to win the Super Bowl.
Rob's House Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Don't laugh. Can anyone really see the Bills winning the Super Bowl with Stevie Johnson as a reciever? Actually yes. For the first 55 minutes of the game Stevie is a an elite possession WR - that's right, I said it. But if I'm trying to win a SB with him I want to have a Robert Horry on the team to take the game winning shot.
Maybe Someday Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Based on the 2 options available, I had to vote no. I don’t see any benefit to just cutting or trading him this offseason. As I said last year with regards to Fitz, find his replacement first and then move on. Don’t cut him and then try to find a replacement, especially with our draft history. I am all for finding someone better and then getting rid of SJ13. Regardless of production, how much he is getting paid is completely irrelevant to me until we reach a point where lack of available cap money is actually holding us back. He is a pretty good #2/slot receiver but I think both Woods and Goodwin are as well and have more upside. The only way I’d be on board with dumping SJ13 this offseason would be if we can find that big, prototypical #1 WR. I just don’t see how getting rid of SJ13 and replacing him with an unknown that could end up being like TJ, Easley, Hardy or any of the other WRs we drafted in the 1st few rounds makes this team better.
simpleman Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 After reading what the cap space was next year for Stevie, I have to ask about metrics. If we are going to have cap issues I have to ask about Stevie VS Byrd. I think Byrd makes a better choice for using valuable cap space than Stevie. Not that I dislike Stevie, it is just about choices, dollars and value.
1B4IDie Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 60/40 seems an appropriate response. However it is inappropriate for an actual, crucial member of any offense to have ~40% of the fans think, "Yeah its OK if he walks."
The Big Cat Posted December 13, 2013 Author Posted December 13, 2013 60/40 seems an appropriate response. However it is inappropriate for an actual, crucial member of any offense to have ~40% of the fans think, "Yeah its OK if he walks." No.
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Yes, but only if they trade him for something of value, at least a 3rd round pick. I hate the idea of letting a proven useful player go for a pittance and wasting an asset in replacing him, which the Bills have done too much, but I think it's time for Stevie to annoy another team. There's always something with Stevie and it's just not working here. He may be better off on another team where he's not such a focal point. After reading what the cap space was next year for Stevie, I have to ask about metrics. They don't save much since Stevie has ~$13M in dead money over the next 3 years if they decide to release him prior to his March bonus.
dayman Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I say yes. Obviously not the prudent thing to do but I'm just sick of watching him...he's not that good and certainly not a game-changing #1 and frankly I'm sick of him being our flagship WR
San-O Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 No. Some fans/posters are going to want to keep almost EVERY player the Bills have, no matter what. People even wanted to keep Kelsay, which I still can't believe, but people latch unto players and can't let go.
Maury Ballstein Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Don't laugh. Can anyone really see the Bills winning the Super Bowl with Stevie Johnson as a reciever? Easily. I just don't want to see him suit up for the fins or jets. 49ers w Stevie and Crabtree is something. Same w panthers. Can stay with Bills for another 5 years as quality 2 is the play imo. Edited December 13, 2013 by Ryan L Billz
dayman Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Some fans/posters are going to want to keep almost EVERY player the Bills have, no matter what. People even wanted to keep Kelsay, which I still can't believe, but people latch unto players and can't let go. I generally have no problem cutting ties the moment I no longer believe someone is a part of "what makes the Bills good." This includes Kelsay and guy like Fred (in the event he reaches that point). But I do get why guys like Kelsay and Fred are latched onto...I get it...but Stevie is not one of those guys. No reason to latch onto Stevie.
Maury Ballstein Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I generally have no problem cutting ties the moment I no longer believe someone is a part of "what makes the Bills good." This includes Kelsay and guy like Fred (in the event he reaches that point). But I do get why guys like Kelsay and Fred are latched onto...I get it...but Stevie is not one of those guys. No reason to latch onto Stevie. Says the 40 percenter! SJ all day. Time to atone.
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