Rocky Landing Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Please explain why. What has Cousins ever done to prove he is a starting NFL QB? Be a 4th round draft pick? But hey anyone is better than EJ obviously. We're going to see over the next few weeks, as he will likely be starting for the 'Skins for their last three games. It seems likely he will be available, he played well in his few games last season. I said "intrigued" btw. Not, "lets bench EJ for him."
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 As I said, he needs to be healthy but make no mistake.....when he IS healthy he is WAY better than Cruz, let alone SJ. His numbers are very similar to SJ and he had a better QB throwing him the ball.
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Josh McCown is 34 years old. Not exactly a long-term solution. I would be more intrigued with Kirk Cousins. That's the purpose of the team getting a veteran backup. They don't want him to be a long-term option over EJ. No threat to our EJ. I think McCown may have played himself out of that spot with his play this year, though.
Buftex Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 He has looked good. But a 34 yr old journeyman on his 7th team... seems like a Fitzy to me. Anyone remember Todd Collins?
NoSaint Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 His numbers are very similar to SJ and he had a better QB throwing him the ball. i think id take nicks over stevie easily when healthy, but i wouldnt be upset with anyone for disagreeing due to the health issues. nicks worst YPC 13.1, career YPC 15 nicks best 2 seasons (28 games) 2350 yards, 18 tds stevies best YPC 13.2 career YPC 12.8 stevies best 2 seasons (not consecutive, 32 games) -- 2100 yards 16 tds nicks has more upside, but his health would certainly be a risk. that said, long term i dont know about stevies health either.
dubs Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Look at the trade record of free agent wrs. IT's pretty terrible. The Giants were phasing Nicks out anyways. He lost a step and he struggles with injuries. not worth the money IMO. I agree that the Giants are phasing him out, which is why he's even available in the first place. It's a classic risk/reward scenario. He's only 25 years old and has the size and playmaking ability the Bills need. However, he's been a injury mess the last couple years. I guess you have to qualify every statement here, but I thought it went without saying that I wouldn't want to Bills to sign him for ludicrous money or extremely long term. Nor do I expect Calving Johnson to come walking though that door. His numbers are very similar to SJ and he had a better QB throwing him the ball. haha…really? You're comparing Hakeem Nicks to Stevie Johnson? First, they are completely different types of receivers. Second, it's not like you can only have one. We have Stevie locked up so you can have both.
Bill from NYC Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Second, it's not like you can only have one. We have Stevie locked up so you can have both. It is JMO, but the odds of the Bills paying SJ 6 million dollars or more next season are slim to none. Their track record shows that they are less concerned about cap space than actual spending. They let their best offensive lineman walk and replaced him with Brown/Legursky. Levitre was a better guard than SJ is a receiver. This, while they were bringing in a rookie QB!!! Yeah, from where I sit the odds of SJ being on the Bills in 2014 are virtually non-existent.
Jauronimo Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 How about Luke McCown? Same name you trust, but 2 years younger.
JM57 Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 It is JMO, but the odds of the Bills paying SJ 6 million dollars or more next season are slim to none. Their track record shows that they are less concerned about cap space than actual spending. They let their best offensive lineman walk and replaced him with Brown/Legursky. Levitre was a better guard than SJ is a receiver. This, while they were bringing in a rookie QB!!! Yeah, from where I sit the odds of SJ being on the Bills in 2014 are virtually non-existent. I'm sure they will pay Stevie all but 25,000 of his 2014 salary to play elsewhere. They've already got $12.5 million in dead money, what's another 6 or 7 on top? That strategy seems to be working real well in Dallas, Oakland and Washington
dubs Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 I'm sure they will pay Stevie all but 25,000 of his 2014 salary to play elsewhere. They've already got $12.5 million in dead money, what's another 6 or 7 on top? That strategy seems to be working real well in Dallas, Oakland and Washington I think the issue with Stevie is he's just miscast as a número uno. He's a good slot receiver but wouldn't be a number one on many teams. I'd be hopeful that if buffalo had a true number one, Stevie would be a much better fit.
Rocky Landing Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 i think id take nicks over stevie easily when healthy, but i wouldnt be upset with anyone for disagreeing due to the health issues. nicks worst YPC 13.1, career YPC 15 nicks best 2 seasons (28 games) 2350 yards, 18 tds stevies best YPC 13.2 career YPC 12.8 stevies best 2 seasons (not consecutive, 32 games) -- 2100 yards 16 tds nicks has more upside, but his health would certainly be a risk. that said, long term i dont know about stevies health either. I think it's extremely deceptive to compare numbers like this. Nicks has been playing with Eli Manning for the last five seasons, on a team good enough to beat the Patriots in the 2012 SB. Of course his numbers are going to be higher. If Nicks' numbers were identical to SJ's, you would have to assume that SJ was the better receiver.
Jdizzle Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 No McCown hes solid backup but Trestman is HUGE reason why he is doing so good as well as very solid Offenseive line play and 3 monsters in Jeffery, Marshall, Bennett
NoSaint Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) I think it's extremely deceptive to compare numbers like this. Nicks has been playing with Eli Manning for the last five seasons, on a team good enough to beat the Patriots in the 2012 SB. Of course his numbers are going to be higher. If Nicks' numbers were identical to SJ's, you would have to assume that SJ was the better receiver. has eli manning as a regular season qb been that consistently good? sure id take him over fitz, but i think many still focus on his strong January performances and forget how weak some of his september, october and novembers were. cutler to start this week, also. Edited December 13, 2013 by NoSaint
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) has eli manning as a regular season qb been that consistently good? sure id take him over fitz, but i think many still focus on his strong January performances and forget how weak some of his september, october and novembers were. cutler to start this week, also. Where Eli has consistently shined throughout his career is in the 4th quarter (so many clutch comebacks in the 4th quarter in the regular season) and his play in December and January. I would coin Eli as a clutch quarterback which is very rare in this league. He is kind of the opposite of Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys who put up great numbers early in the year and in quarters 1 -3, flops in the 4th quarters and implodes late in the regular season. Edited December 13, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever
Dopey Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 That's the purpose of the team getting a veteran backup. They don't want him to be a long-term option over EJ. No threat to our EJ. I think McCown may have played himself out of that spot with his play this year, though. I hope you guys noticed that Dallas dropped 3 Ints right in their hands that night. Right in their hands. This guy is just like Fitz. He makes 3-4 bone headed plays a game. If he's lucky(like he was the other night) he gets away with it. I don't think he would be an upgrade over Lewis as a backup.
Iraq Vet Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I would rather shave sensitive body parts with a cheese grader than get another retread in here.
Iraq Vet Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I would prefer exchange charmen toilet paper with sandpaper than get another sub 500 free agent. We already have Kolb... at least he is on the roster and is cheap. I would rather brush my teeth with steel wool.....
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