San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 There's no hope for you at all. Says the person who wants the Bills to draft an O-lineman in the first round.
NishP Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 1st round - Taylor Lewan LT Michigan - He's strong enough to play RT and nasty enough. 2nd round - Cryil Richardson G Baylor - Great run blocker 3rd round - Shayne Skov LB Stanford - Very good against the run, hopefully his lack of elite speed will drop him into the 3rd round. Him and Kiko together would be legendary. 4th round - Jared Abbrederis WR Wisconsin - Great hands and a very savvy receiver @ 6'2 4th round - C.J. Fiedorowicz TE Iowa - No way in hell he's available but stranger things have happened.
HSerotte Posted December 7, 2013 Author Posted December 7, 2013 Also, how is free agency shaping up this year? My dream offseason would be grab a guard in FA, then a ILB, WR, and TE in the first three rounds.
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Yup every year the qbs are better. If only we were smart enough to grab Nassib Barkley of Tyler Wilson last year. Wonder which Donks will reach "shoot up the board next year " I'm confused! What exactly has any of those QBs done this year that would tell you they're better than Manuel?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 1st round - Taylor Lewan LT Michigan - He's strong enough to play RT and nasty enough. 2nd round - Cryil Richardson G Baylor - Great run blocker Agreed. We should draft guys to upgrade over Cordy Glenn and Kraig Urbik. Maybe in the 3rd round we can draft someone to upgrade Kiko Alonso's position.
GOBILLS78 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) If an elite WR is there, I would like the Bills to choose him. If not, I'd be happy with a top-three DB or LB. There's almost zero chance they will draft a QB or OL, unless they acquire multiple additional picks. I'd like to see Manuel play through next year. If he has a really horrible year, sure, draft another in the first two rounds of '15. The plus will be the elite receiver they hopefully draft in '14 will be ready to take the next step by then. Edited December 7, 2013 by GOBILLS78
NishP Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Agreed. We should draft guys to upgrade over Cordy Glenn and Kraig Urbik. Why Maybe in the 3rd round we can draft someone to upgrade Kiko Alonso's position. Why Be a !@#$ing smart ass? RT LG LB Replacing Moats, Pears and our LG Don't ever try and play me again man I'm the most laid back dude on this forum if you don't have anything positive to say keep it to your self.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Why Be a !@#$ing smart ass? RT LG LB Replacing Moats, Pears and our LG Don't ever try and play me again man I'm the most laid back dude on this forum if you don't have anything positive to say keep it to your self. You advocated drafting 2 O-linemen directly after I posted about the silliness of drafting an O-lineman in the first round. Who was being the smart ass? Also you said to draft a left tackle, Taylor Lewan. Am I supposed to be a mind reader and extrapolate that you want to draft a left tackle to play right tackle? Laid back? Smartass? How about you were understandably misunderstood because your post was anything but clear?
thewildrabbit Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) 1st round - Taylor Lewan LT Michigan - He's strong enough to play RT and nasty enough. 2nd round - Cryil Richardson G Baylor - Great run blocker 3rd round - Shayne Skov LB Stanford - Very good against the run, hopefully his lack of elite speed will drop him into the 3rd round. Him and Kiko together would be legendary. 4th round - Jared Abbrederis WR Wisconsin - Great hands and a very savvy receiver @ 6'2 4th round - C.J. Fiedorowicz TE Iowa - No way in hell he's available but stranger things have happened. OG Richardson is graded at the 30th- 32nd best, and he won't be there in the 2nd as QB's and O linemen tend to move up as the draft gets closer. Anyway, your draft would certainly address some issues in my view, I'm just not so positive it would give the Bills the best upgrades needed. The Bills need help in stopping the run, and pass rush so #1 OLB like Khalil Mack. They could use a real #1 WR, Mike Evans- Sammy Watkins. OLB-WR-OG-OT in any order would satisfy me. NFL draftscout.com, Rob Rang has the Bills taking Cyrus Koundjio with the #9 overall http://www.cbssports...ftscout-RobRang Both sbnation.com & walterfootball.com & SI have the Bills taking Mack @#9. OT at #9 is not that far-fetched as NFL.com has the Bills with OT a need. Although DE makes no sense, and S only if they let Byrd walk. 9. Buffalo Bills Record: 4-8 Team needs: OT, safety, DE Analysis: The Bills could use another offensive tackle as well as some youth at defensive end. Buffalo linebacker/pass rusher Khalil Mack would be a very popular pick, and his versatility would give defensive coordinator Mike Pettine a lot of flexibility. http://www.nfl.com/n...or-all-32-teams Edited December 7, 2013 by FeartheLosing
LB3 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) You advocated drafting 2 O-linemen directly after I posted about the silliness of drafting an O-lineman in the first round. Who was being the smart ass? Also you said to draft a left tackle, Taylor Lewan. Am I supposed to be a mind reader and extrapolate that you want to draft a left tackle to play right tackle? Laid back? Smartass? How about you were understandably misunderstood because your post was anything but clear? In all fairness, he did say in his post that he wanted to draft Taylor Lewan and play him at RT. Also, he didn't say anything about Urbik. Legursky sucks. I think a guard in the second round is more than fair. Just because he posted his draft wishes, doesn't mean it was a personal affront to your post about not drafting a guard or tackle in the first round. I personally think we've had success in the early rounds lately so I'm not against it. Wood (1st round g/c), Levitre (2nd round t/g), Glenn (2nd round t/g). To Nisher, if we could get Skov in the 3rd I'd be ecstatic. Edited December 7, 2013 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 If an elite WR is there, I would like the Bills to choose him. If not, I'd be happy with a top-three DB or LB. There's almost zero chance they will draft a QB or OL, unless they acquire multiple additional picks. I'd like to see Manuel play through next year. If he has a really horrible year, sure, draft another in the first two rounds of '15. The plus will be the elite receiver they hopefully draft in '14 will be ready to take the next step by then. Who is this "elite" WR that you are advocating? There are no Calvin/Andre Johnson's, AJ Green's, Larry Fitzgerald's in this years draft. With your first round pick you need to get a "playmaker"! Someone who can contribute and start on day one. Someone who's opposing teams had to game plan against. There aren't many "playmakers" in this year's draft, but I know Khalil Mack is one.
GOBILLS78 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Who is this "elite" WR that you are advocating? There are no Calvin/Andre Johnson's, AJ Green's, Larry Fitzgerald's in this years draft. With your first round pick you need to get a "playmaker"! Someone who can contribute and start on day one. Someone who's opposing teams had to game plan against. There aren't many "playmakers" in this year's draft, but I know Khalil Mack is one. There you go. As I said, if there isn't one there, go DB or LB. Beyond the first-tier "elite" WR you mention, even second-tier would be nice. Think Jeffery, Nicks, Marshall, Jackson, etc.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Why Be a !@#$ing smart ass? RT LG LB Replacing Moats, Pears and our LG Don't ever try and play me again man I'm the most laid back dude on this forum if you don't have anything positive to say keep it to your self. In all fairness, he did say in his post that he wanted to draft Taylor Lewan and play him at RT. Also, he didn't say anything about Urbik. Legursky sucks. I think a guard in the second round is more than fair. Just because he posted his draft wishes, doesn't mean it was a personal affront to your post about not drafting a guard or tackle in the first round. I personally think we've had success in the early rounds lately so I'm not against it. Wood (1st round g/c), Levitre (2nd round t/g), Glenn (2nd round t/g). To Nisher, if we could get Skov in the 3rd I'd be ecstatic. Thanks Kiko. My apologies to Nisher. I didn't see the part about moving Lewan to right tackle. My spaciness might have to do with having only 3 days off in the last 5 weeks (today is the 4th), and battling the flu. Sorry again Nisher. Thanks again Kiko for moderating. I'd better take a nap. It would probably help.
agardin Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) I am a BPA kinda guy but I agree with the big receiver crowd. The Bills need a physical WR that can win the contested ball 30 yards downfield. WRs usually take a few years to develop so getting a good one now makes sense to me. I was for picking Michael Floyd a few years back, if you could go into the way back machine would you take Floyd or Gilmore in a redo scenario? Edited December 8, 2013 by agardin
Maury Ballstein Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 I'm confused! What exactly has any of those QBs done this year that would tell you they're better than Manuel? its a joke. for all the every qb in next years draft is way way better than EJ Manuel crowd. they mostly stink, just like the next crop will have their fair share of stinkers.
LB3 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Thanks Kiko. My apologies to Nisher. I didn't see the part about moving Lewan to right tackle. My spaciness might have to do with having only 3 days off in the last 5 weeks (today is the 4th), and battling the flu. Sorry again Nisher. Thanks again Kiko for moderating. I'd better take a nap. It would probably help. No problem. I always enjoy your posts and appreciate your perspective and objectivity.
thewildrabbit Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 I am a BPA kinda guy but I agree with the big receiver crowd. The Bills need a physical WR that can win the contested ball 30 yards downfield. WRs usually take a few years to develop so getting a good one now makes sense to me. I was for picking Michael Floyd a few years back, if you could go into the way back machine would you take Floyd or Gilmore in a redo scenario? Texas A&M Mike Evans 6'5" 225 lbs, 4:58 40. fit that bill "The 6-foot-5, 225-pound redshirt sophomore lit up the Crimson Tide defense for 279 receiving yards on seven catches, including a 95-yard score that sparked the Aggies in the second half." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000247405/article/film-room-breaking-down-texas-am-wr-mike-evans
agardin Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 A few mocks have Evans going to the Bills, sounds good to me. He is one big dude, tough to see him losing the jump ball. If he can learn to catch the ball well away from his body like Tony Gonzales he will be very hard to defend in traffic.
808 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 as of right now id be thrilled if we were able to go 1.cj mosley ILB-pair him up with kilo in the middle and he's so versatile and plays sideline to sideline can rush the passer and awesome win pass covg.(mack would be a cool pick but i don't think this team really needs another pass rusher as much as it could use another stud versatile LB who cn play in the middle with kiko. wouldn't be mad at mack tho) 2.austin seferian jenkins TE- guy has got awesome size and is another great athlete in the basketball mold of graham-gates-gonzo type guys. 6'6 265. his stats were down a bit because they really focused on price and sankey and he was a afterthought. he's a really solid blocker too. shut down anthony barr in a few 1-1s when uw played ucla this year. 3.david yankey OG-we need OL help mainly at LG so this is pretty obvious. 4.marion grice RB- as bad as it is to start thinking about the future past fred we should be addressing it soon. he will be 32 going on 33 next season. 5. colt lyerla TE- he's got some big off field concerns but his talent can't be denied. he's probably the next aaron hernandez tho 6-7 could be a punter and some other flier pick much like lyerla but of the draft were today id be pretty happy with this draft
agardin Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 The Bills may have to move up to get Jenkins. He would be a great fit though.
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