Dorkington Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Perhaps not fair, but look at it this way. If you lived in Chicago, you would likely not be able to afford to see many or perhaps any games live, as there is high demand for very expensive seats. At least in Buffalo you can buy a ticket and go to the game. In Chicago (as in Washington, Baltimore, NE, Dallas, etc) the average fan is priced out of the stadium. Even with the smaller capacity, I would venture to guess that Chicago's average revenue per home game is significantly more than Buffalo's, even double or triple. Buffalo needs the ticket revenue associated with the larger capacity to survive. It's cheaper for me (living in DC) to go to a Bills game in Buffalo, than it is for me to go to a Bills game in Washington, Baltimore, etc... crazy.
QCity Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 So you are saying the Bills are so fragile they fumbled twice because they weren't in their home stadium? Nope. I think that qualifies as quadrupling down.
The Big Cat Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 ill definitely be at Hammers between 7-8am. Closer to 7 prolly. Then this will be my first hammers experience. Let's plan to check-in after JAX
Al Cowlings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I think the "elements" are a bit overrated as they are unpredictable. It was, I believe, 35 and overcast in Buffalo on Sunday. Now, the crowd on the other hand, that is by FAR the Bills largest home field advantage. No other pro sports team has fans that continue to show up in such large numbers after 14 years w/o playoffs. would break most fan bases, but selling 50K seats in Buffalo for a meaningless game in what could be awful weather right before Christmas is actually pretty impressive. What would other teams draw at this point?!?! many teams have over 50,000 season ticket holders or PSLs. Not too impressively for the Bills really.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Who wouldn't want to sit outside and freeze watching a 4 or 5 win team? A fan base's patience only goes so far. We are working on our second decade of terrible football. There is an entire generation that only has a 9-7 season to point to as their idea of Buffalo Bills football success. That'd be enough to break ANY fan base. There are grown children of Bills fans in college or the military that have no recollection of the Bills doing anything but suck. As a teenager it was hard keeping up interest in the lowly Bills of the mid-1980's.......but that was a BRIEF struggle compared to this garbage.
NoSaint Posted December 5, 2013 Author Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) many teams have over 50,000 season ticket holders or PSLs. Not too impressively for the Bills really. it was a bit of a trick question, as no other team has been so bad for so long.... that said, and to your point, the cleveland browns were believed to be coming into this year with 50k+ in season tickets (estimated 55k last year, with a comfirmed 94% renewal rate plus any new sales) and they are a bad team in a not so great market. we have stayed in the 40s mostly(42k this year being the first number that popped up in a google search, buff news article that mentions 43k last year, and 37k the year before). Edited December 5, 2013 by NoSaint
Big Turk Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 And Russ points out only 2 home games have been true sellouts. Not arguing that the team has earned better support, just throwing the numbers out there as they are often discussed. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/04/20000-tickets-remain-for-bills-home-finale/ Miami, Jacksonville and Tampa Bay haven't had a true sellout in years
mrags Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Then this will be my first hammers experience. Let's plan to check-in after JAX looking forward to it already.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 And Russ points out only 2 home games have been true sellouts. Not arguing that the team has earned better support, just throwing the numbers out there as they are often discussed. http://profootballta...ls-home-finale/ Tarnished brand plus only 4 wins in 12 games = more tarnished brand At this point......each season becomes the lowpoint of this franchise from a consumer confidence standpoint and it will remain that way until they actually win.
mead107 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Wife and I will not be at the game or hammers
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Wife and I will not be at the game or hammers Sissy
johnwalter Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 this will be my first game ever at the ralph! (ill be in town visiting the grandparents for the holiday)
CodeMonkey Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 this will be my first game ever at the ralph! (ill be in town visiting the grandparents for the holiday) Enjoy it!
Taro T Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 the fairness is no one said the bills had to go larger than soldier field. You sure about that? I'm pretty sure Ralph was insistant that the Orchard Park stadium be at least 80,000 when it was built.
Hammered a Lot Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 You sure about that? I'm pretty sure Ralph was insistant that the Orchard Park stadium be at least 80,000 when it was built. Correct
mead107 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Sissy Granddaughter arrives Sunday. Much more important.
Justice Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 This is the reason why every Toronto game should be the last "home" game every year.
mead107 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 This is the reason why every Toronto game should be the last "home" game every year. Good idea
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