KOKBILLS Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Kirby, in your opinion, you you think keeping Rodgers would have propelled the Bills to a better record that 6-10? If so, how? What impact do see him as having over the course of the year and how would have positively improved the 6-10 mark you cite? Rogers was never going to make this team because of Marrone...Period, end of story... Even if he did make it...which, once again, there was no way Marrone was going to keep him...But even if he did, Rogers would have made little difference last year because Marrone never would have played him knowing (in Marrone's words) he had SO much more proven production and talent at WR already on the roster... Marrone is not the kind of Coach with the patience necessary to develop a kid like Rogers...Pagano is...That's really all there is to it... Edited January 5, 2014 by KOKBILLS
Kirby Jackson Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Kirby, in your opinion, do you think keeping Rodgers would have propelled the Bills to a better record in 2013 than 6-10? If so, how? What impact do see him having over the course of the year and how would he have improved the 6-10 mark you cite? Potentially, I do. They lost 2 games in OT an another 1 or 2 in the last couple of minutes. Tht means to me 1 play could have changed a game or 2. He may have been able to make one of those.
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Kirby, in your opinion, do you think keeping Rodgers would have propelled the Bills to a better record than 6-10? If so, how? What impact do see him as having over the course of the year and how would have positively improved the 6-10 mark you cite? Rogers regular season stats would've projected out to 60 catches 800 yards and 8 tds in 16 games. Today's one big catch would've kept him close to that yardage pace. I won't say he hits that pace but if we even converted a small percentage of missed plays we might've been 1-2 more wins, and who knows long term. I've mentioned several times already that he was a favorite deep target of ejs in the spring camps There's really no way to answer it other than I'm confident we wouldn't have been worse. Ultimately that's the problem, we wouldn't have been worse and we could've been better possibly. Edited January 5, 2014 by NoSaint
LB3 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Remember that ONE, I repeat ONE catch Rogers had this game. What were the Bills thinking releasing such a productive player.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2014 Author Posted January 5, 2014 Remember that ONE, I repeat ONE catch Rogers had this game. What were the Bills thinking releasing such a productive player. Better than any Bills' receiver this week.... Cough Cough.
Andrew Son Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Everyone in this thread has argued one way or another. I wish the Bills didn't make a mistake, but it's obvious they did. Don't we preach accountability? Who should be accountable if not the organization and front office? Am I not a fan because I say they made a stupid mistake and am proven right? Are people who hated the Maybin pick not real fans? "Proven right". Lol
LB3 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Better than any Bills' receiver this week.... Cough Cough. Why? Why spoil my joy?
Thurmal34 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Rogers regular season stats would've projected out to 60 catches 800 yards and 8 tds in 16 games. Today's one big catch would've kept him close to that yardage pace. I won't say he hits that pace but if we even converted a small percentage of missed plays we might've been 1-2 more wins, and who knows long term. Right, and Rob Johnson's stats projected to...doesn't a player have to actually do something to make the team at some point? If, as has been posited, Rodgers made the team over Hogan, would he have seen the field here more than Hogan did?
KOKBILLS Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Remember that ONE, I repeat ONE catch Rogers had this game. What were the Bills thinking releasing such a productive player. He's an undrafted Rookie who signed late with the Colts and was only active for 5 games this season... This argument has never been about Rogers this season...Though I think it's crystal clear he could have a bigger impact than Chris Hogan...This argument is about the future and the type of player Rogers could turn in to as a UDFA who the Bills smartly picked up, then stupidly discarded prematurely...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Right, and Rob Johnson's stats projected to...doesn't a player have to actually do something to make the team at some point? If, as has been posited, Rodgers made the team over Hogan, would he have seen the field here more than Hogan did? He might've. And if he didnt, so what? Again, we'd be no worse but might be better. No idea how much better - could be a ton, could be not at all - but we wouldn't be worse.
KOKBILLS Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Right, and Rob Johnson's stats projected to...doesn't a player have to actually do something to make the team at some point? If, as has been posited, Rodgers made the team over Hogan, would he have seen the field here more than Hogan did? Rob Johnson? Really? He might've. And if he didnt, so what? Again, we'd be no worse but might be better. No idea how much better - could be a ton, could be not at all - but we wouldn't be worse. Exactly...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 He's an undrafted Rookie who signed late with the Colts and was only active for 5 games this season... This argument has never been about Rogers this season...Though I think it's crystal clear he could have a bigger impact than Chris Hogan...This argument is about the future and the type of player Rogers could turn in to as a UDFA who the Bills smartly picked up, then stupidly discarded prematurely... However, what if Da'Rick flames out like Maybin did? This story is still in its early chapters.
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 However, what if Da'Rick flames out like Maybin did? This story is still in its early chapters. You mean, what if he plays like Chris hogan?
Thurmal34 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 He might've. And if he didnt, so what? Again, we'd be no worse but might be better. No idea how much better - could be a ton, could be not at all - but we wouldn't be worse. Fair enough. Like I said upthread, I think a player should have to earn a spot, not be given one. For every Rodgers, there's a Robey.
KOKBILLS Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 However, what if Da'Rick flames out like Maybin did? This story is still in its early chapters. Maybin was #11 overall Bro... Rogers was a UDFA... HUGE, huge, massive difference there... There was zero risk in keeping Rogers...None...
Thurmal34 Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Rob Johnson? Really? Of course. Prime example. We traded for him based on what his one game with Jax would have projected to over a season. Right? Edited January 5, 2014 by Thurmal34
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 You mean, what if he plays like Chris hogan? What if Indy loses next week and Rogers washes out of the league? What if Hogan becomes a good player next year?
Maury Ballstein Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Well let's fire this back up if he gets 1 more catch next week.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Maybin was #11 overall Bro... Rogers was a UDFA... HUGE, huge, massive difference there... There was zero risk in keeping Rogers...None... It's still the same question. What if Rogers washes out of the league next year?
drnykterstein Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 However, what if Da'Rick flames out like Maybin did? This story is still in its early chapters. It's not luck of the draw. There is a skill in evaluating players and how good they are and will be. Marrone is obviously a bit lacking (as was Tom Danahoe and Dick Jauron)
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