1B4IDie Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I thought Moffit was going to be real beast conning out of college.
pkwwjd Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Kind of like Barry Sanders waiting until right before training camp to retire ... No chance for the Lions to replace him either.
NoSaint Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Kind of like Barry Sanders waiting until right before training camp to retire ... No chance for the Lions to replace him either. Well in this case he lost a starting job in late August was traded to another team and then a few weeks later decided he wasn't into it. Having not chosen the organization, he probably still should've finished the year but I think I'm less offended by it - as his only career choice to date really was to enter the draft.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Why is it the NFL is a business when the owner makes a move to cut a player but it's somehow different when a guy walks away? he left money on the table. It would be the same as most of us walking out on our jobs. He shouldn't be held to a higher standard because of his profession. If you walk out and quit your job in the middle of busy season, are you going to be chastised for quitting your teammates? No you wouldn't be, and in this cuthroat business that is the NFL no one would blink an eye if ownership cut him. not sure I see the difference here. Thank you. "Moffitt's spot was taken on the 53-man roster by center J.D. Walton, who was activated from the physically unable to perform list before the 2 p.m. Tuesday deadline. The Broncos have five days to release Moffitt, who walked away from more than $1 million in salary for the remainder of this season and 2014." Moffit's replacement was heading his way, and in fact there's a possibility that Moffit was gonna be cut. Also he walked away from a lot of money. The team gets to keep that money. http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268750/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CyiEJLlT "I just really thought about it and decided I'm not happy. I'm not happy at all," Moffitt told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Seattle. "And I think it's really madness to risk your body, risk your well-being and risk your happiness for money. Moffitt, 27, made about $1.8 million before taxes in his 2½ seasons in the NFL. "I've saved enough. It's not like I'm sitting here and I'm a millionaire," he said. "That's what I kind of realized. I'm sitting here and I got to this point and I was like, what is the number that you need? How much do you really need? What do you want in life? And I decided that I don't really need to be a millionaire. "I just want to be happy. And I find that people that have the least in life are sometimes the happiest. And I don't have the least in life. I have enough in life. And I won't sacrifice my health for that." Moffitt stressed that he's not passing judgment on his former colleagues, saying, "This is all my personal stuff and I respect this game and I respect the men in this game." Although Moffitt never had a history of concussions, he acknowledged all the blows he sustained in practices and games concerned him.
Charles Romes Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 i agree with this to a certain extent, but i have to play devil's advocate here. if he is on the team and his heart and head are not in the game, if he is not giving forth the effort and commitment demanded to play in the nfl, then he is doing a huge disservice to his teammates and coaches. if this man has no more love for the game and no will to carry on, it is better to leave now then become a distraction/locker room cancer. butler seemed to be a lot more passionate about his life off the field than on, and i have no ill will towards him. in fact, i have a lot of respect for him. to be an nfl player i think you need to be all in, it's definitely not a career choice you can just half-@$$. Butler was becoming a damn good tackle. If he was doing that with half the effort he could have been all pro going all in.
ganesh Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I concur. To quit midseason is to be a quitter and to negatively affect your teammates and team. This is a really selfish move. On a side note, this reminds of Brad Butler (who appropriately walked away in the offseason). Wonder what he's up to and whether he has any regrets. Not if he really has a health reason. Anyone not completely healthy (whether physically or mentally) should walk away from the game. There is nothing un-manly about it. History always teaches us that the first thing on the road to recovery is that we should first recognize that we have a problem. The solution then becomes easier. If you had an issue that could be embarrassing if seen publicly, would you still go to work everyday, knowing that people will look at you differently; bosses who will stop giving you work knowing your condition; the same goes for these guys. Just because you were given money, doesn't mean that you become a slave to your work.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 http://t.foxsports.m...dollar1-million I thought that this was worth noting, considering the criticism that Martin has received for leaving the Fins. I don't care how much I want to hang it up, I'm sticking around for 3 months to win that Superbowl. I expect many will say "good for him," but I think he's a real jerk off. He made a committment and was well paid for it, and now he up and quits mid- season leaving his team w/o O-line depth while they're in the midst of a SB run. There's no honor in that. Play out the season and then retire. I'm sure they'd have found better depth had they known he wouldn't be around. Exactly I hear he'd been taking the dude's lunch money. yea, sent him racist txt and wants to kill him.
fansince88 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I read to whole article...well untill I got to the part where her studied the life of Noam Chomsky who is a liberal socialist. I dont respect his reasoning. there are people in this country that do much more dangerous jobs with muck lower payout. They do it because they have a desire to supply for their family. Take our Us or Canadian Military personel for example. Much more dangerous and they dont get paid what he did. This I believe may be due to his socialist leaning which teaches that you shouldnt take too much of the pie. I believe he is making this decision by a faulty mindset of what about my needs. When you walk away from a team there are alot of others needs you need to be focused on. After the season is over would be acceptable in my opinion. Just my two cents
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember some members of this board really wanting the bills to get this guy.
1B4IDie Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember some members of this board really wanting the bills to get this guy. I was one. Thank you. "Moffitt's spot was taken on the 53-man roster by center J.D. Walton, who was activated from the physically unable to perform list before the 2 p.m. Tuesday deadline. The Broncos have five days to release Moffitt, who walked away from more than $1 million in salary for the remainder of this season and 2014." Moffit's replacement was heading his way, and in fact there's a possibility that Moffit was gonna be cut. Also he walked away from a lot of money. The team gets to keep that money. http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268750/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CyiEJLlT "I just really thought about it and decided I'm not happy. I'm not happy at all," Moffitt told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Seattle. "And I think it's really madness to risk your body, risk your well-being and risk your happiness for money. Moffitt, 27, made about $1.8 million before taxes in his 2½ seasons in the NFL. "I've saved enough. It's not like I'm sitting here and I'm a millionaire," he said. "That's what I kind of realized. I'm sitting here and I got to this point and I was like, what is the number that you need? How much do you really need? What do you want in life? And I decided that I don't really need to be a millionaire. "I just want to be happy. And I find that people that have the least in life are sometimes the happiest. And I don't have the least in life. I have enough in life. And I won't sacrifice my health for that." Moffitt stressed that he's not passing judgment on his former colleagues, saying, "This is all my personal stuff and I respect this game and I respect the men in this game." Although Moffitt never had a history of concussions, he acknowledged all the blows he sustained in practices and games concerned him. That is written like he basically had to do nothing for 5 more days and get a million dollars. But if he was about to get cut anyway the Broncos would keep the money too. So it's not like he actually left money on the table.
NoSaint Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I don't care how much I want to hang it up, I'm sticking around for 3 months to win that Super Bowl Jokes aside, sometimes guys aren't motivated by the money or the ring. Between losing his job, and being traded at the final cuts this August- I'm guessing his last 2 months were a bit crazy scrambling to learn a play book, meet teammates, leave friends and family, find a new home, rearrange his fall plans.... Being his first break it's not shocking he finally sat down and without having the next practice/game dominating his thoughts simply realized it wasn't a life he wanted to live. Still probably should've finished out the year, but not having had a real chance to sit down and say "ok, do I want to be a Denver bronco this season" I think I'm less offended by him not toughing it out.
BuffaloBill Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I expect many will say "good for him," but I think he's a real jerk off. He made a committment and was well paid for it, and now he up and quits mid- season leaving his team w/o O-line depth while they're in the midst of a SB run. There's no honor in that. Play out the season and then retire. I'm sure they'd have found better depth had they known he wouldn't be around. I could not disagree more. All of us are free to provide our employers notice and leave. We generally are also not putting our long term health at risk. There are plenty of people who will want to step in and take his job. If the NFL feels these kinds of actions are problematic because of depth then they can expand roster numbers. The final point is that if the guys heart is not in the game I don't want him on my roster until the end of the season.
IDBillzFan Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 As one of the older posters here I can tell you I wish I learned at 27 what Moffitt figured out: if you're unhappy doing something, and you don't have to do it, then don't do it. Bad timing, yes, but you're not helping the team by staying around with no motivation to play. He was a 3rd string lineman. You could find three replacements on Ebay.
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Like it or not, this is a regular old job to some of these guys. I always suspect Big Mike Williams never really liked football but he was good at it and could make a career out of it. As awesome as we think it is, you don't see the daily grind these players go through. Besides the games, the majority of preparing to play on Sundays absolutely sucks. You don't get to spend time surfing the internet or posting on message boards when you're practicing or getting treatment on your injuries.
CBD Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Why is it the NFL is a business when the owner makes a move to cut a player but it's somehow different when a guy walks away? he left money on the table. It would be the same as most of us walking out on our jobs. He shouldn't be held to a higher standard because of his profession. If you walk out and quit your job in the middle of busy season, are you going to be chastised for quitting your teammates? No you wouldn't be, and in this cuthroat business that is the NFL no one would blink an eye if ownership cut him. not sure I see the difference here. Yes I think you would, you don't think the workers who have to pick up the slack in the busy season aren't going to chastise the employee who left them high and dry?
NoSaint Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Like it or not, this is a regular old job to some of these guys. I always suspect Big Mike Williams never really liked football but he was good at it and could make a career out of it. As awesome as we think it is, you don't see the daily grind these players go through. Besides the games, the majority of preparing to play on Sundays absolutely sucks. You don't get to spend time surfing the internet or posting on message boards when you're practicing or getting treatment on your injuries. and i suspect that he probably got some feelings of being out of control of his life/happiness when he was traded to a new city with no warning 8-10 weeks ago. going home and reflecting on everything was possibly less about partying it up and not wanting to work and had a good chance of just being sore, and tired, and not wanting to go back to his newly forced home to do a job he wasnt really enjoying. we will see where he ends up, but i would guess in a situation where he can be around friends and family and work hard without getting beat up as badly. nfl player may sound like a dream job, but i imagine a lot about it is awful. if not for the "cant pass up on money" attitude and of course "what the hell else would i do," id guess youd see a lot of players step out by choice.
BillsBytheBay Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I do find myself agreeing with you on this one. It also reminds me of when Schobel dragged out his "I'm going to retire, but maybe not" saga and it handcuffed the team. i met Brad Butler while he was working out in Jacksonville FL. Before he left football. If I remember correctly, he was doing something political. And no, I don't think he misses the Bills. I told him good luck, and he kinda shrugged it off.
Maybe Someday Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Sort of. I recall that he retired after the draft and many free agents were also gone by then. I believe it was in February that he retired. Before the draft and before free agency began. That is written like he basically had to do nothing for 5 more days and get a million dollars. But if he was about to get cut anyway the Broncos would keep the money too. So it's not like he actually left money on the table. If he was on the roster at the beginning of the season, I believe his full salary would have been guaranteed. So he did walk away from some money but it wasn't millions. He was making something like $700k this year so he walked away from about half of that. His salary for next season was not guaranteed. While you don't want a guy to quit on his teammates halfway through the season, If I'm on this team, I'd rather he walk away now than go half hearted and possibly get Peyton killed because he's not into it. Edit: I did a little research and found that he will leave an estimated $312,500 on the table for the remainder of this season and $752,500 in non-guaranteed salary in 2014. Edited November 7, 2013 by 3 --> 10 Connection
Rob's House Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Why is it the NFL is a business when the owner makes a move to cut a player but it's somehow different when a guy walks away? he left money on the table. It would be the same as most of us walking out on our jobs. He shouldn't be held to a higher standard because of his profession. If you walk out and quit your job in the middle of busy season, are you going to be chastised for quitting your teammates? No you wouldn't be, and in this cuthroat business that is the NFL no one would blink an eye if ownership cut him. not sure I see the difference here. You're treating dissimilar situations as though they were similar. A football player is basically and employee who signs a contract to complete a 17-21 week project. There is a possibility that circumstances may arise where the project manager may have to replace the contractor, but the contractor gets paid for the full project regardless. And if I contracted you to a 17-21 week project, you agreed, and then up and quit midway through while I still had potential need of your services, then yes, I'd say you were a jerk off too.
NoSaint Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 You're treating dissimilar situations as though they were similar. A football player is basically and employee who signs a contract to complete a 17-21 week project. There is a possibility that circumstances may arise where the project manager may have to replace the contractor, but the contractor gets paid for the full project regardless. And if I contracted you to a 17-21 week project, you agreed, and then up and quit midway through while I still had potential need of your services, then yes, I'd say you were a jerk off too. while i agree in a general sense, id be curious what your take is with him being traded on august 20th, as opposed to having been a free agent that signed on to play for the Broncos? Any effect on your opinion?
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